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Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

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I love my IPAs but I have to admit that the UK does social beer right. 3% or even 2.5% ales are the way to go if you want to socially drink. We have a concept of a "session" beer in the US, which is lower ABV but the selection of really good, really low gravity beers is the best in the UK as far as I can tell.

I have been on the hunt for the past year in the mid-atlantic area of the US looking for Moosehead for example makes a Moosehead Light for the states at 4%, but they also offer Cracked Canoe which is only 3.2% but not sold in the states (available in the Canada, UK and Costa Rica of all places where I tried it).

I drink miller 64. It's 2.8%. I like it, very light.

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> 3% or even 2.5% ales I am not familiar with those, can someone give some examples of these types of beers?

This is close to home-brewed kefir.

Your joke made me chuckle. I then googled it and realised the kefir I make and drink every morning apparently has 0.5-2% alcohol.

Re: Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

#93

I've switched to alcohol free beers. They're a bit sweeter but for me it's fine.

Likewise! I'm trying not to drink much anymore. But I always want something cold and fizzy. So it's a switch between refrigerated carafes of water, seltzer, and zero-alcohol beers. Although I feel incentivized not to have even the zero-alcohol beers since it's still 60 calories. While the seltzers I find are 0. Any beer recommendations? I haven't tried much outside of the locally-supplied zero-alcohol Heineken and Co…

Asahi Dry Zero has 0 alcohol, 0 calories.

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I was first introduced to 3% beer in Norway. It was crazy expensive (due to taxes on alcohol) and really good. I was disappointed that I couldn't find anything similar in the US.

I'm in Sweden on vacation now (and still binging HN..) and they have 3,5% variants of most major brand of beers like Carlsberg, Heineken and others, It's great! It tastes like a real beer, but without the buzz I usually get after a six-pack.

Falcon Export is my go to local beer here in Stockholm. It's also available in 3.5%.

Hope you enjoy your visit!

Re: Alcohol without the hangover – scientists are finding ways

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That's GABA Labs.[1] They've been working on this for years. They have a product, called "Sentia". It's plant-based and "natural", which avoids some regulatory problems. Their better product is an entirely synthetic molecule.

It's self-limiting. It's said to produce a pleasant buzz, but more of it won't produce drunkenness.

You can buy Sentia. It's insanely expensive.[2]

[1] https://gabalabs.com/

[2] https://sentiaspirits.com/collections/non-alcoholic-spirits

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I have discovered that for me personally, taking magnesium before, during or shortly after having drinks greatly reduces hangovers. I typically get really strong headaches the day after from 2-3 drinks. If I take a 100mg magnesium supplement it is massively reduced. Alcohol depletes magnesium from your body so I guess it counters that.

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> 3% or even 2.5% ales I am not familiar with those, can someone give some examples of these types of beers?

Yeah, this is like "pints of mild" in 1980s old man pubs in the North. I am skeptical such beers exist now in any mainstream pub or bar.

Boddy's was a staple back up north until the Manchester brewery at Strangeways shut down. Going back a fair while now though.

Feels like these days the selection of cask ale is more limited but you have more variations on an IPA than you can shake a stick at.

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I have discovered that for me personally, taking magnesium before, during or shortly after having drinks greatly reduces hangovers. I typically get really strong headaches the day after from 2-3 drinks. If I take a 100mg magnesium supplement it is massively reduced. Alcohol depletes magnesium from your body so I guess it counters that.

I have the exact same personal anecdote. That and also one glass of water per drink.

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I'm in Sweden on vacation now (and still binging HN..) and they have 3,5% variants of most major brand of beers like Carlsberg, Heineken and others, It's great! It tastes like a real beer, but without the buzz I usually get after a six-pack.

3,5% is actually the maximum ABV you can get in supermarkets in Sweden by law. For anything higher ABV than that you need to go to the government-owned chain called Systembolaget or go to a bar or restaurant that has a license to serve alcohol. Because of the restrictions though, craft breweries have been making some great <3,5% beers that they sell at supermarkets.

> 3,5% is actually the maximum ABV you can get in supermarkets in Sweden by law. For anything higher ABV than that you need to go to the government-owned chain called Systembolaget

Jesus that sounds terrible. I get the good intent I suppose but the hell..

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In an absolute sense, it also isn't safe to take a sip of water.

No these aren’t the same risk calculations and in fact use different measurement language - this is important because it’s an actual argument that is fallacious and regularly used. This is the same poorly argued version of: “Milk is a gateway drug” when we’re evaluating a claim like “x% of y users used z drug before starting y, therefore z induces y” but actually irrelevant when asking for causal precursors. That is…

Your own argument is exactly the same though, just for alcohol.
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