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oska wrote: post #657
tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #544

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I’m astounded by the pervasiveness of this meme, given its origins are really from a Mac vs PC internet flame war era that I would like to think we’ve moved past. I’m astounded by the fact that one can imply with a straight face no less that over half the market are status-driven dorks that have no legitimate reason to use an iPhone over an Android phone, the obviously superior for all people in all circumstances cho…

This comment came over as quite aggressive to me, and, browsing your new account history, I found a similar tone in other comments. As you are new here, I would urge you to read the HN guidelines : https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Post by akmarinov »

zh3 wrote: post #474
foobarbazetc wrote: post #363

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iPhones just work. Macs just work. 99% of people don’t want to spend time configuring anything. Both iOS and Android stopped innovating like 5 years ago, but at least the Apple ecosystem doesn’t feel dead like Android.

I've bought 2 apple products, my wife has bought 1. iPad: Failed after a year, no replacement (we can 'upgrade') - it technically works but shuts down 3 or 4 minutes after boot. mac Mini: Hard disk failed. Out of warranty, so bought a cheap SSD and gave it to the kids (they prefer something that plays modern games). iPod: Old, yes, taken out of the drawer for a road trip but dead as a doornail. Admittedly, not tried…

My dad has a Windows PC, I’ve had to help out 5-6 times in the last two years, because Windows just stops booting up after an update…

My wife got a Dell first its NVM gave out a year in (never seen that happen) then - you guessed it - she updated Windows and it stopped booting.

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Post by matheusmoreira »

melagonster wrote: post #661
scarface_74 wrote: post #620

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Another sign of the HN bubble. Google only has lifetime sells of 27.6 million pixels over 6 generations https://www.phonearena.com/news/pixel-7-pro-6a-google-best-s... Apple is estimated to sell twice that many in a quarter https://www.statista.com/statistics/299153/apple-smartphone-...

My friend decided to buy zenfone 10 rather than pixel6. pixel is more expensive than iPhone, why people even try it?

> pixel is more expensive than iPhone, why people even try it?

It's the only android phone recommended by GrapheneOS.

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Post by SllX »

lockhouse wrote: post #631
SllX wrote: post #500

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You have to go back a long time, but just the Apple II[1] technically, and maybe the Newton, but both would be less general than a pre-App Store 2007 iPhone because Safari is such a difference maker. [1]: I, III, Lisa, too, but I mean you get the gist,

Enlighten me, what could you do an Apple II that you can't do on a modern Mac? It has a real UNIX terminal. I can write code in nearly any programming language. There are thousands of packages that I can install easily with Homebrew. It feels general purpose to me.

If you’re asking me that question I think you misread my comment.

This is a list of general purpose computer platforms Apple has made in the past in addition to the Mac. The Mac may be the last one they’ll ever make as open and general purpose as it is, which is a damn shame considering what they showed off with their Vision Pro announcement and press demos.

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Post by jackvalentine »

worrycue wrote: post #622
jackvalentine wrote: post #589

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The link at the bottom has a profile that sets the APN - it might work without it if you reboot tbh but without being in Korea and having the SIM I can’t verify that. It isn’t the app that he’s talking about.

Didn’t see that. Viewed image on phone and didn’t scroll. I think it depends on the carrier whether APNs are required. Can be automatically set nowadays with iOS 16 according to https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201699

I don’t think I’ve _ever_ had to manually set my APN though. I’m now more confused after seeing your link!

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Post by TylerE »

makeitdouble wrote: post #547
nordsieck wrote: post #361

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> I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products I don't know about other people, but I went iPhone specifically for the value/$. Got a used iPhone SE 2020 for $150 in late 2021, and expect to use it for 5+ years. I seriously doubt that there are any Androids out there that could get even close to that. It really helps that Apple's CPU/SoC is substantially superior to what everyon…

> I seriously doubt that there are any Androids out there that could get even close to that. I don't see the 2020 SE getting software upgrades for much longer, it's already the bottom of the barrel for iOS17, so I guess you're OK to forgo those for a while ? If your phone needs are low enough you can get by with the SE in 2026, buying a Gakaxy A series today would totally fit the bill, and you probably could get one…

IOS 16 isn’t even stable yet, never mind 17z

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Post by kaba0 »

boulos wrote: post #627
kaba0 wrote: post #251

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But Google is again deliberately stupid with them, like, just goddamn.. sell it.. in Europe. I honestly can’t even understand that there are like 3 Eu countries I could buy it, if I wanted to..

The majority of the EU population can buy it directly... https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-7-availability... says: > The full list of countries includes the US, UK, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Ireland, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Japan, Australia, Singapore, Taiwan, and India. I get that plenty of countries don't have official Google Store support, but it's a bit like saying there isn…

Free to do so? Yes. Is it a giant pain in the ass? Also yes. Especially with regards to warranty.

it’s funny that cheap noname Chinese phones have no problems with selling it directly in every EU country.

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Post by okdood64 »

Izikiel43 wrote: post #533
sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

I remember a friend telling me why use iPhone instead of Android: "I already deal with problems at work, I don't want to deal with problems with my phone" Truer words never said, I also had several androids over the years which went crazy after some time, switched to iPhone, never an issue again.

Yup, for something so critical in my life, I just want the damn thing to work. While I would love to tinker with an Android, I just don't have the energy for that (I did a decade ago) nor the time to troubleshoot problems that come up.

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Post by mikae1 »

solardev wrote: post #666
melagonster wrote: post #661

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My friend decided to buy zenfone 10 rather than pixel6. pixel is more expensive than iPhone, why people even try it?

To avoid having to use crappy UIs and apps from random OEMs. And to get updates directly from Google. I never wanted "Google compatible" phone like an IBM compatible PC. Just like the Wintel ecosystem, Android fragmented into chaos. Pixels are the only way to get a Google phone now without all the third party bloat and crapware.

> To avoid having to use crappy UIs and apps from random OEMs. And to get updates directly from Google.

And three years of platform updates with very low resale value. At the time when I got my last pixel it was also three years of security updates. Add to that that the average consumer won't buy at release date. Quite pathetic (compared to Apple).

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Post by stouset »

zh3 wrote: post #316
lolinder wrote: post #278

The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

I spend money on Apple products because I have been routinely delighted by them and have never once been burned.
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