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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by darksaints »

Izikiel43 wrote: post #533
sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

I remember a friend telling me why use iPhone instead of Android: "I already deal with problems at work, I don't want to deal with problems with my phone" Truer words never said, I also had several androids over the years which went crazy after some time, switched to iPhone, never an issue again.

I’ve used both, currently on an iPhone, and I can’t understand this sentiment at all. Both are shitty in different ways.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by Iulioh »

sib wrote: post #351
lolinder wrote: post #278

The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

>> This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. That's generally what a "market share" number measures: the share of sales during a period of times. The number of users of devices would be the "installed base."

Well, yeah, but androids and iphones are not "one and done purchases" but are interfaces with a 30% profit margin on digital goods.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by chasd00 »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #532
sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

> My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs I see this pattern with a lot of IPhone users. They tried the cheapest worst quality android phones and came away with a bad taste in the mouth. So iPhone is the only "decent cellphone in 2023". My dude you never tried the good android phones. Get a Samsung galaxy flagship. These are at par, if not better than the similarly priced iP…

i think the point is all iphones are pretty solid. Androids range from "at par" to crap.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by starttoaster »

MAGZine wrote: post #543
starttoaster wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for them So, not necessarily Androids, but whatever they happen to choose? I'm not sure what we're observing, that people just use whatever phone they prefer? Honestly, iPhones aren't a heck of a lot more expensive than a flagship Pixel phone, especially not for a multi-year tech investment. The "iPhones are expensive" propaganda is underinformed. Apple computers on…

the iphone 14 costs $800. the pixel 7a costs $500. I can refresh my pixel 1.5x as often for the same cost.

Firstly, I just want to point out this is kind of a silly argument. A $300 difference in a multi-year investment for a device that drives the way people communicate, pay bills, and even entertain themselves is so negligible that it's not very much worth discussing.

But okay, that's cool and all, but you WILL need to refresh it 1.5x as often or more.. The Pixel 7a goes EoL on security patches in under 5 years. Meanwhile, Apple is still providing patches on iPhone 5 series products released 9 years ago, and latest iOS is available on iPhone models released almost 6 years ago.

Anyway, let's say none of that matters and that tech conservative people only hold their phones for 4 years anyway. An iPhone will hold its value better for that period of time, when you go to sell it on Craigslist. A 4 year old Google Pixel 3a XL can be bought for $72 on Swappa. An almost 5 year old iPhone XR is for sale for $195.

And that's not even to point out the iPhone SE as the other user did, which is cheaper than the Pixel 7a, though I think it would be a fair retort that the iPhone SE is more a competitor to the Pixel 6 generation. 6a being just a tad cheaper than the iPhone SE.

Thinking of tech as a multi-year investment makes the price differences negligible. It's really all about which garden you prefer to be in. Even if your credit sucks and you just need to pay cash for a phone, Swappa makes being in either garden so cheap that you hardly need to worry. And phones are so fast these days that exact tech specs hardly matter anymore unless you're big on mobile gaming.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by jackvalentine »

SapporoChris wrote: post #510
jackvalentine wrote: post #453

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I’ve never seen that before and am interested. Can you post a link to those instructions?

Sure thing. https://imgur.com/a/GsLYW6W The specific instructions for iPhone users are at the very bottom.

Thanks! Very interesting. I suspect this has something to do with the network arrangements of simcard-korea. That’s not standard for iphones with ‘normal’ in-country sims. I change my sim every few months and it ‘just works’ without any extra steps.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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zh3 wrote: post #316
lolinder wrote: post #278

The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by worrycue »

SapporoChris wrote: post #510
jackvalentine wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve never seen that before and am interested. Can you post a link to those instructions?

Sure thing. https://imgur.com/a/GsLYW6W The specific instructions for iPhone users are at the very bottom.

I think the app is just for you to check your data usage. Things will work without it. Just insert the SIM card and reboot.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by yodsanklai »

sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

I've had both Pixels and iPhones (work phone). They're mostly the same to me, except that iphones are much more expensive for no good reason (besides branding). I like that they still make small phones though. Was super happy with my pixel 4a, but they don't make such small phones anymore unfortunately.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by jackvalentine »

worrycue wrote: post #587
SapporoChris wrote: post #510

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure thing. https://imgur.com/a/GsLYW6W The specific instructions for iPhone users are at the very bottom.

I think the app is just for you to check your data usage. Things will work without it. Just insert the SIM card and reboot.

The link at the bottom has a profile that sets the APN - it might work without it if you reboot tbh but without being in Korea and having the SIM I can’t verify that. It isn’t the app that he’s talking about.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by yodsanklai »

lynndotpy wrote: post #391
sb057 wrote: post #223

I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

I'm part of this statistic too, in a different way. Android worked perfectly for me, but the OS was increasingly dumbed down and Androids consistently threw out features I loved. (Headphone jack, expandable storage, full rectangular screens). Androids threw away their market differentiation just to become bad iPhone clones. When I found myself needing a new phone, I had little reason not to consider an iPhone. I boug…

I need to replace my Pixel 4a too. Have you considered the Pixel 6a?
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