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Samsung blowtware is a problem though
Yes, the only reason that prods me away from a samsung phone. I don't want unnecessary apps on my screens/mindspace.
You can hide an app from showing in "apps" screen
US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone
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My phone is in my pocket 99% of the time, why would I care what people think about it? Anyway, a base model iPhone is only in the $600 range, that is like a week of minimum wage work in my state. Where’s the status? No, it is just a basic functional smartphone for people who don’t like to configure these things (I’ll happily tinker all day with my Linux laptop, but smartphones are just like the worst form-factor, I w…
> base model iPhone is only in the $600 range Only? That's an inordinate amount of money for what's just a phone.
It’s not “just” a phone. As a previous comment addressed: a high quality camera, video or audio editing workstation, hotspot, nav system, media player.. you can even get FLIR camera attachments, use it as a measuring device, and play high quality games on it.
“Just” a phone would make and receive phone calls and that’s it.
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#573Earlier quoted context omitted.
My phone is in my pocket 99% of the time, why would I care what people think about it? Anyway, a base model iPhone is only in the $600 range, that is like a week of minimum wage work in my state. Where’s the status? No, it is just a basic functional smartphone for people who don’t like to configure these things (I’ll happily tinker all day with my Linux laptop, but smartphones are just like the worst form-factor, I w…
> base model iPhone is only in the $600 range Only? That's an inordinate amount of money for what's just a phone.
> That's an inordinate amount of money for what's just a phone.
i would argue the phone app on an iPhone is the least used function of the phone. It's certainly not "just a phone".
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I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing). It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for t…
I’m astounded by the pervasiveness of this meme, given its origins are really from a Mac vs PC internet flame war era that I would like to think we’ve moved past. I’m astounded by the fact that one can imply with a straight face no less that over half the market are status-driven dorks that have no legitimate reason to use an iPhone over an Android phone, the obviously superior for all people in all circumstances cho…
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It isn’t any different than buying Nike, Gucci, or Michael Kors. Many folks are extremely brand and status conscious. Appearing high status is more important than many other expenses.
Nike is high status?
Nike can be extremely high status to some groups. Certain Air Jordans go for 10s of thousands of dollars.
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Yes 60% of Americans are guided by “status”. My 80 year old mom was just talking to me yesterday about how she feels superior to everyone else because she has Blue bubbles like the Instagram influencers she followx
Your 80 year old mom follows Insta influencers? Cool mom, but probably not representative.
Sarcasm is really lost on the internet…
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It doesn't exactly seem fair to say Google is up 48% when they went from 2% to 3% of the market. It seems to me that their growth is almost entirely coming from Samsung. The numbers are jumpy enough that I also wonder how much when different phone makers announce their new wares affects the numbers.
I think he means Google phones, ie Pixel. I am not surprised because they've been advertising pixel really hard, and they are good phones. Still, it seems a lot more likely to eat into Samsung than Apple market share.
I agree Google is more likely to eat Samsung shares till they offer an equivalent high end as Apple, but that may take a decade or more with phone life at Google and Samsung support moving closer to Apple's model of six years or more.
And yeah it is way easier to grab marketshare at the 2% range then to take Apple head on with say 40% market share in USA.
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Yes, I don't care about getting updates. If they're important to you, that's fair. But the phones don't suddenly stop working without updates. They're still perfectly fine.
Is not like flagship Android phones are cheap. They cost just as much as iPhones with much worse support. I agree if you are happy non flagship Android phones. Those are a bargain.
Why do you say "with much worse support"? That's not the case anymore, at least for Pixels.
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#579I swapped from Android after a decade to iOS at the end of last year, and don't regret it one single bit. Android you just get plagued with software bugs (random battery drain, UI freezes, weird crashes etc) constantly, additionally I wasn't a fan of how system apps because they come from Google auto-update, going in and having an app completely change at random when I'm not expecting it, is not a nice experience whe…
Well it's far easier to have better overall software quality when you have a closed ecosystem with even the hardware and drivers designed by yourself. You need to implement and support only your own use cases with all loose ends cut.
For me the choice is simple. Android allows piracy out of the box and lets you do some pretty advanced power user stuff (e.g. system-wide VPN ad blocking) without rooting, iOS requires a jailbreak to do literally anything. Android will run any browser, iOS is Safari only. Android is open source, iOS is a closed proprietary black box. iOS also does other absolutely ludicrous things, like ATS blocking fetch and xhr requests over HTTP with no way to disable it. It's like it comes with always-on parental controls out of the factory. I'm the admin of my device, not fucking Tim Apple.
Android may be a buggy duct taped amalgamation of random hardware and software, but that's a direct result of it being open and no worse than the average linux machine.
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The disconnect is that you're thinking about computers for their ability to do computing. Most people don't care about whether their computers are good at computing, but are instead trying to accomplish some other task. In fact, the more that the 'computer' disappears, the better in their mind.
The part that worries me is that Apple is stifling young people's imagination for what computers can do.
how are they stifling imagination? You can still get a compiler and text editor like always. Those two things were all we had back in "the good old days" of so-called general computing.