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US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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What lock-in do iPhones have that isn't a thing on Android? Honestly curious.

iMessage and FaceTime are the biggest ones, leaving the ecosystem will make the experience of talking to you worse for anyone using an iPhone still.

And when I was on an Android phone, Apple users weren't too happy about me trying to use talk/hangouts/meet/duo or whatever Google's messaging app of the week was.

For interoperability, nothing beats SMS/MMS/POTS/SMTP.

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Samsung is the Apple of android. Big marketing budget, mid performance at best.

What’s mid performance about an iPhone?

Per dollar? Everything. If cost is not considered, nothing much really.

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Apple messaging lockin is having the desired impact. Combine that with Google's mess of a strategy and it is easy to see why this is happening. It is why it is so critical to hire the right people in leadership to avoid squandering key, already successful, strategic positions.

That’s just such a US. American problem that it is honestly, kind of funny in a dumb way from any other part of the world. Like SMS itself is a legacy, insecure tech, it really should not be used at all anymore, unless you really only know their phone number. Knowing that you are not sending SMS when you see a blue bubble, but apple just conveniently put their internet-based message system into the same app is not a…

> Like SMS itself is a legacy, insecure tech, it really should not be used at all anymore, unless you really only know their phone number.

I use SMS mostly because the only people I know who don't are using Facebook stuff and I'm not going to do that. But I am nervous about the say when people stop using SMS so much because I don't look forward to having to have multiple messaging apps and trying to remember who is using what.

> You can’t send images/videos through a Short Messaging Service, period.

I do that all the time.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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That's not so bad, swiping right works well. The _real_ pain is how bad ios autocompletion is, compared to Android's

Thankfully this is getting fixed in iOS 17. Users trying the beta are saying it's a dramatic improvement.

It is. I have the beta on my daily driver iPad and I prefer texting on it.

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I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

Curious, why do you "resent" your money going to Apple?

For me it's things like iCloud Photos having no API to access them and no reasonable way to pull them out or back them up. So very much a trap. Among other things.

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The link should really be to the original report [0]. This 55% is iPhone's share of phone shipments in Q2, not the number of users of the respective phones at any given time. In other words, fewer people are buying smartphones than were before, but Apple saw less of a hit to their numbers than everyone else did. Contrary to existing comments here, this stat doesn't appear to indicate that people are switching from An…

I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products; it's almost like their lives are ruled by the status they feel an iPhone brings (and the consequential sacrificial purchasing).

It likely varies by area and average income, here it's almost an inverse correlation - the less-well off kids at school tend to have parents on iPhones and the comfortable parents are on whatever works for them.

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That’s just such a US. American problem that it is honestly, kind of funny in a dumb way from any other part of the world. Like SMS itself is a legacy, insecure tech, it really should not be used at all anymore, unless you really only know their phone number. Knowing that you are not sending SMS when you see a blue bubble, but apple just conveniently put their internet-based message system into the same app is not a…

People are just eating what Google says raw. Apple will just need to implement RCS and everything will be better. Don't worry that the only universally available RCS relay is operated by Google and encryption is a part of a non-standard Google extension. So Google wants Apple to hand all messages over to Google. For fun, Apple should propose to implement RCS but only if Google agrees to use the Apple relay. No chance…

> Apple will just need to implement RCS and everything will be better.

I used it for a bit, but learned that RCS is not something I want even a little.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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I'm part of this statistic. I've been an Android user my entire adult life, but it really has been a constant downward spiral over these past several years. My previous three phones from LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi all had major software bugs that were never fixed, the biggest being just incredibly poor network connectivity (across multiple carriers, mind you) resulting in at least several calls just not connecting to m…

As long as we are comparing anecdotes I've used a cheap one note Android for years and it's amazing

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> Android should be like Windows, which is the same no matter where it's running Is it? I remember some HP specific software when I turned on my new laptop to reformat it with Linux.

It is, if you wipe it and reinstall plain Windows and whatever drivers are necessary, which is trivial on x86 PCs and basically the default for technically capable individuals. But even then, PC manufacturer bloatware doesn't typically modify the OS itself and is just extra crap bolted to it. The versions of Android that gets shipped on phones and tablets by contrast are different at the source level, sometimes beari…

Razer and Nvidia drivers almost force a login on you and do things like constantly spin up and wear out your idle HDDs searching for games to "optimize." You often have to do a research project filled with SEO spam to get around stuff like that.

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What did you settle on? I’m starting to fantasize this reality too. I have an iPhone now.

That's just an exercise though really. You NEED a smartphone nowadays for everyday life: banking, gym access, maps, etc.

> You NEED a smartphone nowadays for everyday life: banking, gym access, maps

It is bizarre to me that anyone would state the few minutes saved per month on these as NEEDS.

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