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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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iPhones end up being cheaper in the long run. They get software updates much longer than almost any Android phone, and at least here even small cities have local shops that repair them. It's also just a superior user experience.

I wish they kept on making the mini models though. I'm using a 13 mini, which has been really nice. Most modern smartphones are uncomfortable to carry in the front pocket of slim pants.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

#42

> Despite inflation numbers falling through the quarter and ongoing strength in the job market, consumers hesitated to upgrade their devices amid market uncertainty.” > Apple’s resilience was driven by strong promotions across postpaid and prepaid. Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile continued to offer $800+ promo credits for the iPhone 14 while old-generation iPhones were also steeply discounted across prepaid. We are seeing…

Ha, what a world! I've known that Apple's actually been fairly competitive from a cost benefit analysis wise for a long time at the hardware level but it's very funny to see a comment associating Apple with being the cheaper option.

Edit: I see you answered below ;-)

Which dumbphone are you getting? (Nokia) That's awesome. I've been doing a PHONEVORCE lately... it's been several years in the making as I've shed all social media, and deleted and blocked nearly everything that I can waste time on with my phone.

Now my phone use is for looking at maps, checking which aircraft are nearby, email, and direct messaging.

It's pretty calm! I'm reading more, mental health seems very good, I learn neighborhoods really well cause I don't use GPS.

It's really nice not staring at that fucking box all the time.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to be getting a Nokia 6300 4G. Smart enough to have google maps, dumb enough to stay out of my head. I've been recommended to "just get a GPS" -- they're like $300, and I'm cheap :) so my dumpy little phone will have to do the job. That's like, the #1 thing I _really need_ out of a phone; the rest is distracting trash. The best part is that you can pay _ridiculously low_ prices month to month through variou…

> I've been recommended to "just get a GPS" -- they're like $300, and I'm cheap :) Get a second-hand Android device for those tasks, install LineageOS and F-Droid/Aurora Droid, don't put in a SIM card and you're set for much less than $300. You'll be running free software - e.g. OsmAnd for mapping using off-line maps, no connectivity necessary - and you won't be feeding Google (et al) your data as you will using that…

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This is a _fascinating_ idea. I have a Pixel 4a right now, can I install this stuff on there and just switch to a dumb phone entirely for... phone purposes?

It looks [0] like this shouldn't be too tough...

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgNWaORMM9I

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

#44

Honestly I don't know how iPhone users live without the back button (or more accurately now, the back gesture). I used an iPhone for a year (work phone) and just could not get over how much harder it was to work a large iphone. I felt like I had to reach every corner of the screen much more often than on Android.

That's not so bad, swiping right works well.

The _real_ pain is how bad ios autocompletion is, compared to Android's

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

#45
I always found it interesting how the dynamic for 'nerds' shifted from Android to iOS because of data security reasons. I was one of those who originally got an Android because of "tinkering" (and honestly still miss that), but with the data privacy realization of iOS vs Android, I could NEVER go back.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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post #23

I wonder if the 15 and USB-C might be a surprisingly big upgrade driver?

IMO, outside of the tech world, nobody really cares about USB-C - or at least - not enough to drive upgrades. It's just what one end of the power cord looks like.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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What did you settle on? I’m starting to fantasize this reality too. I have an iPhone now.

That's just an exercise though really. You NEED a smartphone nowadays for everyday life: banking, gym access, maps, etc.

>gym access

Where do you live that gyms don't work without a smartphone? Must be some hipster SV place with Juiceros and Keurigs I imagine.

All the gyms I've been to in Europe give you either a physical RFID card or armband for access when you sign up, no smartphone required. Then again I've only been to the most budget gyms, not the uber-fancy ones of tech-bros, lawyers and corporate elites, so maybe those gyms have "smarter" access systems too but I couldn't care less.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

#48
Android’s problem is Pixel is the only good one, and it has not been flagship quality since the Pixel 2.

The 3 had odd issues, the 4 had a laughable battery life, and 5-7 are a weird mix of midrange and flagship capability (trending towards flagship, but not in the club yet).

All other Android vendors are on a continuum of crap, between these points:

1. loaded with bloat and customizations that aren’t better than what Google provides, whose main point is to say “but I’m not Google” (Samsung)

2. vanilla-ish Android but missing capabilities that are normal in Pixel

If Google would take Pixel seriously, it would be a credible competitor.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

#49

iPhones end up being cheaper in the long run. They get software updates much longer than almost any Android phone, and at least here even small cities have local shops that repair them. It's also just a superior user experience. I wish they kept on making the mini models though. I'm using a 13 mini, which has been really nice. Most modern smartphones are uncomfortable to carry in the front pocket of slim pants.

A lot of mobile sites break on the mini phones it’s a huge hassle. Would not recommend. I have one and that’s my biggest gripe with it. There are restaurants I can’t checkout at for example because the button is stuck just below the fold and I can’t scroll to click it due to shitty ui

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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post #42

> Despite inflation numbers falling through the quarter and ongoing strength in the job market, consumers hesitated to upgrade their devices amid market uncertainty.” > Apple’s resilience was driven by strong promotions across postpaid and prepaid. Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile continued to offer $800+ promo credits for the iPhone 14 while old-generation iPhones were also steeply discounted across prepaid. We are seeing…

Ha, what a world! I've known that Apple's actually been fairly competitive from a cost benefit analysis wise for a long time at the hardware level but it's very funny to see a comment associating Apple with being the cheaper option. Edit: I see you answered below ;-) Which dumbphone are you getting? (Nokia) That's awesome. I've been doing a PHONEVORCE lately... it's been several years in the making as I've shed all s…

Omg I've been describing it as a phone divorce as well.

For all the same reasons.

With all of the same external requirements like maps.

...

Are you me?

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