US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

Post by Klonoar » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 4:55 PM UTC

CWuestefeld wrote: post #87

vanilla_nut wrote: post #35

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Long support (5+ years), physical first-party stores for support every 100ish miles in the USA, compatibility with Apple's proprietary iMessage and FaceTime protocols. An OS that's generally considered easier to use, with more walls in place to protect users from malware. A simple $400ish price point. Not a huge difference from Samsung's cheaper offerings on paper, but a lot of little things that add up to a better e…

My limited experience with the Apple store seem a reason to stay AWAY from Apple. They wouldn't look at the phone. They made me stand in line to make an appointment to come back , all the while their team of "experts" stood around chatting. It came across to me as horribly elitist, and one of the worst retail experiences I can recall.

Post by kyriakos » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 5:00 PM UTC

AuthorizedCust wrote: post #48

Android’s problem is Pixel is the only good one, and it has not been flagship quality since the Pixel 2. The 3 had odd issues, the 4 had a laughable battery life, and 5-7 are a weird mix of midrange and flagship capability (trending towards flagship, but not in the club yet). All other Android vendors are on a continuum of crap, between these points: 1. loaded with bloat and customizations that aren’t better than wha…

Post by glimshe » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:07 PM UTC

bitsandboots wrote: post #98

glimshe wrote: post #84

I'm a long time Android user but boy, Google is trying hard to make me switch. Android Auto is a mess, not a lot of good phone options with compact footprint, poor update policies and basically the feeling of always being 2-3 years behind Apple.

I don't get "Android Auto" and "Android Automotive" They aren't open source, and when they don't work, your car is left with a weird system that can't be substituted. They make it less likely that I'll want to buy a car with them. What's so good about it versus just using bluetooth and a phone mount? Could be crazy, but figure buggy software should be something I can swap out, not integrated into a car many times mor…

Post by khazhoux » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:30 PM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #92

_ea1k wrote: post #16

Apple messaging lockin is having the desired impact. Combine that with Google's mess of a strategy and it is easy to see why this is happening. It is why it is so critical to hire the right people in leadership to avoid squandering key, already successful, strategic positions.

Its annoying as hell, because iMessage isn't really useful when most of the people I write to don't have an iPhone. 100% I blame Google though, they need to get their ass together and make their own. It needs to work with everbody who already have a google account and they need to commit to it for 10 year minimum. Then it is reasonable for Apple to create a system so they can talk together.

Post by runako » Fri, Jul 28, 2023, 6:32 PM UTC

didntcheck wrote: post #63

martin_drapeau wrote: post #24

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FaceTime and iMessage always work very well and out of the box. No installation/configuration required. This, in my mind, is the biggest selling feature for iPhones to baby boomers. Locks them in forever as well.

WhatsApp takes about two clicks to setup. My 60 year old and generally technophobic mum and all her friends have managed to set it up and use it themselves (including group chats and profile pictures)