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US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by throw9away6 »

didntcheck wrote: post #63
martin_drapeau wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FaceTime and iMessage always work very well and out of the box. No installation/configuration required. This, in my mind, is the biggest selling feature for iPhones to baby boomers. Locks them in forever as well.

WhatsApp takes about two clicks to setup. My 60 year old and generally technophobic mum and all her friends have managed to set it up and use it themselves (including group chats and profile pictures)

What matters is what your friends use. If grandmas friends already got setup on iPhones she is better off with one as well

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

drcongo wrote: post #79
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #65

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Which bloatware and what problems does it make you? For me, I don't really consider Microsoft Office as bloatware as I can use it, plus, what's bloatware for you might be useful apps for others, and I found it stays out of my way once I push it to the side if I don't need it, so it's existence is a non-issue for usability. Samsung bloatware used to be bad in the past but now it's decent IMHO, and I think people are b…

If the apps are useful to some people but not others, they could just put them on the Play store, but they don't they force everyone to have them.

Sure, each to his own, but personally I and others don't really care about the preexisting apps as they're few and they stay out of my way and don't pester me.

I just want a great phone for a decent price, that fits all my needs and I'm not gonna die on this "zero-bloatware" hill for the sake of a philosophical stance, because I'm not letting perfect be the enemy of good.

What use to me is a zero bloatware device that doesn't have the HW, features or updates, that I personally need and value?

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by drcongo »

flutas wrote: post #74
ramesh31 wrote: post #54

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> I'm sorry, but - "for the same price"? You must live in a very different place than I do. iPhone 14 Plus MSRP: $899. Google Pixel 7 Pro MSRP: $899. Guess which one will last longer and have higher resale?

Why compare the lower end iPhone to the higher end Android? iPhone 14 Pro: $999 Pixel 7 Pro: $899 iPhone 14: $799 Pixel 7: $599 Pixel 7a: $499

The lower end iPhone still outperforms the higher end Android.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by drcongo »

meepmorp wrote: post #46
tiahura wrote: post #23

I wonder if the 15 and USB-C might be a surprisingly big upgrade driver?

IMO, outside of the tech world, nobody really cares about USB-C - or at least - not enough to drive upgrades. It's just what one end of the power cord looks like.

I'd agree, but also reckon there's likely to be quite a lot of people holding out for the 15. I am.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

optymizer wrote: post #59
aluminussoma wrote: post #19

I am planning to make the switch this year. As a long time Pixel user, Google's support of its own hardware has been subpar. My phone was only officially supported for 3 years. They will increase support for new phones, probably because Apple does the same. It is too little, too late for me.

Long time Android user here (since 1.5 on G1), had all the Nexuses and Pixels as well. Give the OnePlus phones a try. My family's switched to using them and I've been impressed with the battery life and hardware. The software is closer in spirit to the Nexus line.

>Give the OnePlus phones a try.

Don't. Older OnePlus devices (1-3) were great, but the newer ones are pure trash, basically e-waste phones due to how poor the SW support is: good up to date HW, but buggy SW and poor SW update cycles with late updates which often add more bugs and remove features and don't address older bugs leading to never ending frustrations (just read their forums).

They even did bait-and-switch where they promised X update was coming in the future for your phone, and later axing that update completely while quietly removing all mentions of their promile from their webpage and forums. Stay away from them, there are more pleasurable ways to burn your money away.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by CWuestefeld »

vanilla_nut wrote: post #35
sho_hn wrote: post #13

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Samsung also makes quite a few phones with decent cameras. Are you saying the SE2 specifically fills a hole in their line-up?

Long support (5+ years), physical first-party stores for support every 100ish miles in the USA, compatibility with Apple's proprietary iMessage and FaceTime protocols. An OS that's generally considered easier to use, with more walls in place to protect users from malware. A simple $400ish price point. Not a huge difference from Samsung's cheaper offerings on paper, but a lot of little things that add up to a better e…

My limited experience with the Apple store seem a reason to stay AWAY from Apple.

They wouldn't look at the phone. They made me stand in line to make an appointment to come back, all the while their team of "experts" stood around chatting. It came across to me as horribly elitist, and one of the worst retail experiences I can recall.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by codyb »

mydriasis wrote: post #50
codyb wrote: post #42

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Ha, what a world! I've known that Apple's actually been fairly competitive from a cost benefit analysis wise for a long time at the hardware level but it's very funny to see a comment associating Apple with being the cheaper option. Edit: I see you answered below ;-) Which dumbphone are you getting? (Nokia) That's awesome. I've been doing a PHONEVORCE lately... it's been several years in the making as I've shed all s…

Omg I've been describing it as a phone divorce as well. For all the same reasons. With all of the same external requirements like maps. ... Are you me?

haha! Oddly enough... my middle name is Sam no less!

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by flutas »

drcongo wrote: post #83
flutas wrote: post #74

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Why compare the lower end iPhone to the higher end Android? iPhone 14 Pro: $999 Pixel 7 Pro: $899 iPhone 14: $799 Pixel 7: $599 Pixel 7a: $499

The lower end iPhone still outperforms the higher end Android.

Except they aren't comparing straight price.

Here's the quote again.

> There's simply no reason to choose Android - iPhone does everything better, for the same price.

The person you replied to, then replied

> I'm sorry, but - "for the same price"? You must live in a very different place than I do.

They are saying that android phones don't have to cost the same as iPhones for the same functionality. A point you made for them by having to compare a pro of one to a bigger screen normal version to get the same price.

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