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This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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Post by listenallyall »

flooow wrote: post #28
mdgrech23 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of ignorance in this comment is baffling.

It may be ignorant or even insane, but this sort of thinking is also taken seriously in certain places, and even highly rewarded. William Nordhaus won the Nobel Prize for a model which predicts that if the planet warms by 6C - an extinction level event!! - GDP will only be reduced by 8.5%. Why? Because most high-value production happens indoors, where we have aircon. [1] [1] https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/sep/nobel-…

The article you linked to clearly states in paragraph 1 that the paper in question was published after he won the Nobel Prize.

Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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Post by nlitened »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #9
gottorf wrote: post #2

At least in Europe, an order of magnitude (or two, depending on country) more people die from the cold than from the heat[0]. Going by the numbers, if green energy policy keeps summer temperatures down but makes energy more expensive[1], it will kill more people. [0]: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5... [1]: https://news.climate.columbia.edu/2021/10/26/lets-come-clean...

Climate change affects both variance and mean of the weather. Which means both colder and hotter weather, and worse large scale events.

How?

Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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Post by anigbrowl »

crypot wrote: post #62
vaylian wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. The time for nature and us humans to adapt to these new circumstances is vastly shorter than in any earlier age of the planet. edit: bryanlarsen pointed out that there was an even more extreme event in earth's history.

You climate guys crack me up. 15 thousand years ago Canada was under 3 kilometers of ice. Now it is home to 40 million people and covered in wildlife. The human population went from 2 million to 8 billion during this warming period. All the evidence points to a warmer planet supporting more life, not less.

Now do Sudan

Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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Post by gottorf »

flooow wrote: post #72
gottorf wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did such a flawed research win him a Nobel Prize? It's not like the Nobel Committee is made up of conservative politicians.

At first I thought this comment was a joke, but I see you made the GP comment so maybe serious (or just a good troll?). In any case, yes, the Nobel Prize committee for Economics is made up of eminent economists, who are indeed probably best thought of as small-c conservative small-p politicians, rather than academics in the tradtional sense.

It was a serious question, and thank you for your answer. I knew nothing about the composition of the people who award it. I see now that the same Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences that awards the other (hard science) Nobel Prizes also award the Nobel Memorial Prize, and I'll take your word on the views of the composition of that specific committee.

Re: This month is the planet’s hottest on record by far – and hottest in 120k years

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Post by [deleted] »

janj wrote: post #73

I've been thinking about how relief from the impacts of climate change will not be available for all. I was wondering if access to climate relief should be limited for people who denied climate change or supported climate change deniers. With past voting records, social media posts, etc, we should be able to figure that out for a large number of people. I think this would be very unpopular but if relief is limited ho…

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Post by boveus »

janj wrote: post #73

I've been thinking about how relief from the impacts of climate change will not be available for all. I was wondering if access to climate relief should be limited for people who denied climate change or supported climate change deniers. With past voting records, social media posts, etc, we should be able to figure that out for a large number of people. I think this would be very unpopular but if relief is limited ho…

You have a somewhat justifiable position, but you lost me when you started talking about social media posts. In your proposed rationing of "climate relief" it shouldn't be focused on people's thoughts. It should, instead, focus on specific actions people have taken or not taken that directly impact the client.

I could see something like a carbon credit for individuals based on their actions that impact the climate such as limiting their power use, not driving their car frequently, or not having pets. This type of rationing also has problems, though, as it starts to become effectively limiting things to wealthy people who can afford a lifestyle in which they can use a car less frequently or own an energy-efficient home for example.

I don't think there is a reasonable way of rationing climate relief in a morally justifiable way.

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Post by HideousKojima »

sebmellen wrote: post #80
briantakita wrote: post #36

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The climate always changes. Always has & always will. No political movement, economic paradigm, or technology will make the climate static. The geomagnetic field fluctuations, Sun, the solar system's current cosmological coordinates, cosmological effects are too big of a driver of the climate. Geologically speaking, we have just left a mini-ice age. Our efforts are better invested in adjusting to these inevitable cha…

What if it’s all a hoax, and we create a better world for nothing? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Pett#/media/File%3AWhat...

Or what if we destroy the world economy and personal freedom/autonomy in the process?

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Post by supportengineer »

guerrilla wrote: post #14
crypot wrote: post #12

There were no ice caps when primates evolved. I am excited to go back to the climate of my ancestors.

There were no nation-states at that time either. It's going to be a meatgrinder this time around.

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Post by whatshisface »

adamrezich wrote: post #79
cryptodan wrote: post #47

It's the biblical rapture move along

it's the agnostic, post-Christian rapture, complete with agnostic, post-Christian original sin, agnostic, post-Christian dogmatic orthodoxy, and agnostic, post-Christian heresies. it's even got an agnostic, post-Christian priest class that wear agnostic, post-Christian vestments while doing agnostic, post-Christian holy work. the only thing missing is agnostic, post-Christian salvation …

The metaphor would be more profound if you could also apply it to a McDonalds. :-)
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