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Google Med-Palm M: Towards Generalist Biomedical AI

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Ah yes let's make sure to burn down Google for the evil they brought to the world like Google maps, Gmail, Android, research like a lot at ai, chrome etc.

I have no clue what 'goodwill' you even mean.

Google is a company and always has been.

And yes Google is one of the FEW even being able to help the whole society to progress in this field which will save millions of life.

But would be great to burn this do to some weird opinion you have about Google...

Re: Google Med-Palm M: Towards Generalist Biomedical AI

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"We're sorry, the Google Critical Needs Patient Healthcare plan you are on has been terminated." That's pretty much all we can expect from Google being involved in health care. Their entire business is built upon not caring about human lives.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Medical practice is very knowledge intensive, especially general practice. Very prone to human error, have you seen the stats on accidental deaths in hospitals? Excellent high-value use for (future) learning systems which can ingest and apply a large body of knowledge and reason in the face of a huge poorly understood graph of causal factors. No, the last people to be replaced will be those doing unpaid labour,…

I hope I never have to live in a world where I have to convince a united healthcare chat bot that I need pain medicine.

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I am pretty sure they already had their hands at NHS data, thats about 67 million people in the UK. A bit late for that.

It was anonymised by an external company before it reached Google. I know one of the people who did it, if he was getting kickbacks he'd have a nicer car.

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The Google hate crowd is so strange to me. I just don't understand it when Google are probably the best data stewards in the current landscape. I trust Google more than I trust my own government with my data.

I guess their support is bad, is that why you're so against them?

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All being said and done with respect to AI in medicine, Doctors and medical professionals will be the very last people to be replaced. Care (both physical and mental) will be the last bastion of humanity disrupted by AI.

Why? Medical practice is very knowledge intensive, especially general practice. Very prone to human error, have you seen the stats on accidental deaths in hospitals? Excellent high-value use for (future) learning systems which can ingest and apply a large body of knowledge and reason in the face of a huge poorly understood graph of causal factors. No, the last people to be replaced will be those doing unpaid labour,…

> Why?

Regulatory arbitrage.

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The Google hate crowd is so strange to me. I just don't understand it when Google are probably the best data stewards in the current landscape. I trust Google more than I trust my own government with my data. I guess their support is bad, is that why you're so against them?

And the tone deaf product cancellations.

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Model performance doesn't seem to be monotonically increasing with size. The 84B parameter model is the best on most tasks.

What happened to "you just train it on more data and performance goes up exponentially"? There were so many charts proving this and we could even project at what level of data/compute world-conquering superintelligence would inevitably emerge.

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All being said and done with respect to AI in medicine, Doctors and medical professionals will be the very last people to be replaced. Care (both physical and mental) will be the last bastion of humanity disrupted by AI.

They won't be replaced, but doctors are becoming both more expensive and increasingly harder to get access to, so having a cheap and scalable baseline to diagnose the common problems seems like a good thing?

So far WebMD with its entire algorithm being if(symptom) return "cancer"; has somewhat destroyed all public faith in these sorts of systems, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to get done to a useful degree.

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Having spent some time with a hallucinating ChatGPT and having spent some time with doctors during my life, at this point, in my humble opinion, it should be made illegal for a doctor to make a diagnosis without consulting an LLM finetuned with all the medical research and literature available.

Ah, but copyright/patents/IP. Well, IP was created to foster production of useful immaterial stuff. If you now want to use it to hinder production of useful immaterial stuff, you can go to f*ck yourself if you ask me.

Ah, but lawyers and liability. I propose only that the doctor is required to consult the LLM. Easy to log and verify. All liability stays at the doctor who makes the final diagnosis.

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