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It was definitely an out of control scientific balloon. Doesn’t mean the US didn’t also shoot it down to stoke the new Cold War.
The question is the source. Anyone could have put that in the air.
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> Imagine this...China loves to see us spend more and more on "defense", while they plan and execute things such as "The New Silk Road." While we're droning the fuck out of the Middle East, China is making friends in Africa. if your conspiracy that the US is run by self-serving idiots then I don't know what to tell you
Imagine this then...the term was popularized by a multi-star military general who was also a POTUS. Eisenhower didn't know what he was talking about?
Remember: They lied about WMDs, but you don't think they'd stage a balloon incident? You're naive.
I *do* know what to tell you...stop making eveything you don't want to understand a "conspiracy theory." Life isn't that simple.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jvHynP9Y&pp=ygUzZWlzZW5ob3d...
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Sorry, to be clear my point is that 1. They have no reputations to put on the line 2. They didn't do anything risky This isn't like we're talking about the AF Chief of Staff or some major leader in a field. So there's nothing to put on the line, they were nobodies before this and once it dies off they will be nobodies again. Said differently, this whole debacle will make them MORE famous and employable than they were…
1. Grusch gave up his career in the intelligence community to whistleblow on this. He had everything to lose. 2. Grusch has testified under oath to the ICIG, both intelligence committees, and now to the house oversight committee. If he’s locking, they could lock him away indefinitely. Your entire argument is moot and you are looking for any excuse to discredit what’s being said. If you think he’s lying, ask your cong…
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The question is the source. Anyone could have put that in the air.
The Chinese government said it is Chinese. Considering the country is encircled by US bases, what incentive would they have to help the US government?
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> Grusch cannot legally divulge classified information publicly. Nobody can. Congresspeople can. They can stand up and read classified information into the record. They can’t be prosecuted for it, because of the Speech and Debate Clause.
How often is that done? I'm overwhelmingly in favor of transparency and disclosure, but there are pretty big national current security concerns here.
But it is an ultimate recourse Congresspeople have, should they come into possession of classified information they are afraid will be deposited into the memory hole, like Senator Gravel did with the Pentagon Papers.
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> It is. UFO reports come out of all of those countries. India has a religious tradition with very clear UFO references, and videos come out of China all the time (although they tend to be purposely faked 100% of the times I've seen). I have lived/ been a citizen/ married to someone from each of these listed places. UFO reference in Hinduism is zero. I am practicing Hindu - I can vouch with 100% certainty. My wife is…
I literally pointed you to a kaggle file of reports from a major UFO reporting organization. And with regard to Hindu UFOs, I was referring to Vimana. Not sure what you expect me to present as far as evidence goes when my point is "there is a ton of dubious evidence, but evidence none-the-less".
I’m a huge skeptic, but I’ve been following this very closely over the past few months. Fermi’s paradox has two good answers — we don’t see aliens because they don’t exist, or we don’t see them because they are here already. They should be here already. The paradox is about why we don’t see them. Being skeptical is different than doubt-by-default. A skeptic is curious and slow to judge. So with great curiosity, I’ve…
How could you possibly know that?
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Stuff like this always hits the news when really bad shit is either going down or about to go down.
Because they work for a week and finish up on Friday... Like everybody else.
for a site with the demographics that it has, one might expect an acknowledgement that thou shalt not deploy on friday.
He never explicitly said anything about extra terrestrial beings, and this honestly just feels like a stupid spy joke.