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true, UFO == Unknown Flying Object at least since the cold war the US had a lot of interest to capture any unknown flying objects and also not disclose much information about capabilities, scope etc. of such a program Can this objects be strange? sure I mean it who knows what the Soviet Union invents. Just looking at some of the research Nazi Germany did (and which ended up in the hands of the US) they would be stupi…
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There is no physical evidence whatsoever. The only “evidence” is hearsay. Also, the members of the committee can lie without repercussions, so I don’t believe them. And the military lies to the public all the time. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
>There is no physical evidence whatsoever. You do know that you literally can't make that claim in good faith, right? That is simply your belief and, in fact, is contrary to the testimony of all three witnesses, all of which were personally invited to speak before Congress because of what they know. Clearly, you were not invited, though I suppose that itself is a belief. All three witnesses claim that advanced milita…
However I still need some kind of hard physical evidence to start going down that path. Hopefully it shows up eventually, but I’m not holding my breath.
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They most likely haven't been able to reverse engineer much, if anything. But I suspect a profit motive was part of keeping it secret. If everyone knows, then other companies will compete to look at the materials and the contractors could lose out on a lot of money.
This makes no sense to me. People don’t invent an amazing thing and then keep it secret to make a profit. they patent it and make a product or license it. I am totally willing to believe they managed to keep something secret. Hell if it’s true it means they actually did a pretty shit job because everyone knows the word ‘Roswell’ But I don’t buy that after 50 years they haven’t made a single useful thing out of what t…
Everyone who is making the snarky comments have never had an encounter with a UAP. My brothers and some of my friends had them twice when we were kids in New York. You all are calling us a distraction, but it is absolutely nowhere in the news. If it was this distraction, it would be headline on CNN. But it’s not. I literally know no one that knew this hearing was going on today.
The Guardian had live reporting of the hearing. If you Google “uap hearing” pretty much every major outlet covered it. Doesn’t need to be a front page headline for it to add noise to the chaos of the world.
I asked around all day today and no one knew anything about it. They didn’t even know what UAPs were. There are so many other things that are distractions and it’s just not is on the top of the list.
but the thing is, we had government and military officials saying that they were actually alien craft, and they said this under oath, and everyone’s acting like this is nothing.
I did not expect this at all at the hearing because they were under oath, so this is what surprised me so much. I can understand someone not believing anyone saying something on YouTube or a random podcast but they were under oath and they were military officers.
I just don’t understand how no one sees this as something as insane as it is.
For those asking "Why now?" ... here's a couple wild takes: The Interstellar Squid have arrived. They're hanging out around Saturn (cf "largest comet ever"). Even after a century of preparation and propaganda, there is a large fraction of humanity who refuses to conceive of intelligence other than human. This is the last gasp at preparing them. That, or the political corruption has gotten so rank that they're scrapin…
Well, have you ever tried navigating interstellar space? It's not exactly a walk in the park. Even for our sophisticated cephalopod friends, the Interstellar Squid, it's a bit of a pickle. Oh, and let's not forget about the Squid's notoriously poor sense of direction. They've probably been circling Saturn for the past decade thinking it's Jupiter. I wouldn't be surprised if they show up in a few millennia, asking for…
Technically, yes.
With very little success, alas. Pesky gravity.
For those asking "Why now?" ... here's a couple wild takes: The Interstellar Squid have arrived. They're hanging out around Saturn (cf "largest comet ever"). Even after a century of preparation and propaganda, there is a large fraction of humanity who refuses to conceive of intelligence other than human. This is the last gasp at preparing them. That, or the political corruption has gotten so rank that they're scrapin…
Well, have you ever tried navigating interstellar space? It's not exactly a walk in the park. Even for our sophisticated cephalopod friends, the Interstellar Squid, it's a bit of a pickle. Oh, and let's not forget about the Squid's notoriously poor sense of direction. They've probably been circling Saturn for the past decade thinking it's Jupiter. I wouldn't be surprised if they show up in a few millennia, asking for…
For those asking "Why now?" ... here's a couple wild takes: The Interstellar Squid have arrived. They're hanging out around Saturn (cf "largest comet ever"). Even after a century of preparation and propaganda, there is a large fraction of humanity who refuses to conceive of intelligence other than human. This is the last gasp at preparing them. That, or the political corruption has gotten so rank that they're scrapin…
To be honest, the more I see the government leak little tidbits about aliens, the less I believe there are aliens.
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The Guardian had live reporting of the hearing. If you Google “uap hearing” pretty much every major outlet covered it. Doesn’t need to be a front page headline for it to add noise to the chaos of the world.
You have to know that the hearing was happening or even what a UAP was to google it in the first place. I asked around all day today and no one knew anything about it. They didn’t even know what UAPs were. There are so many other things that are distractions and it’s just not is on the top of the list. but the thing is, we had government and military officials saying that they were actually alien craft, and they said…
I think there are some interesting questions and folks with pretty good credentials that have came out and given some interesting answers to some of these.
* Are there craft that defy the laws of physics as we know them today?
* Do any governments or corporations have access to these crafts, partially or whole?
* Do those governments or corporations have control over those crafts?
* Were those crafts ever intelligently controlled?
* What type of intelligence controlled those crafts? Is it biological?
* If biological, what is the source or origin?
One of the witnesses at the hearing today, Cmdr. Dave Fravor (Retired), seems like a really normal guy, not some previous "UFO nut" out to confirm an existing bias.
He said what he saw was amazing, it defied anything he had ever saw, and as a pilot himself... he wished he could pilot it. He flew up next to the damn thing.
Now whether these are illusions or not, whether they defy the laws of physics as we currently know them, I don't know... but these folks have stated that there are up close photos as well as radar data that backs up their claims that should be released to the public.
I like to think that I still retain a chunk of that curiosity that I had as a kid. I can be a skeptic at work and professionally.. but I don't know how we can advance science past a stalemate if we can't suspend disbelief for a minute here or there and entertain the idea that there are some wilddddddd things we may not currently know about.
I think we should potentially waste some time and always follow these leads.
In the off chance that they were ever true, I wouldn't want to be in the group that just dismissed it because of my own ego.
If they're false, let them sell books and make YouTube videos for the rest of their lives. But we shouldn't just dismiss them outright... especially if they're willing to go under oath and have specific directions to point.
Haven't watched the hearing, but when I've heard a breakdown of public comments over the past few months, what has struck me is how circuitous each statement has been. Person 1 high up in the food chain says that Person 2 told them there was something there, but Person 2 turns around and says either Person 1 or Person 3 told them. It feels like a lot of independent construction and circuitous logic, and the whole tim…
Haven't watched the hearing, but when I've heard a breakdown of public comments over the past few months, what has struck me is how circuitous each statement has been. Person 1 high up in the food chain says that Person 2 told them there was something there, but Person 2 turns around and says either Person 1 or Person 3 told them. It feels like a lot of independent construction and circuitous logic, and the whole tim…
Watch the hearing. The two pilots are in no way making statements like that.