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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites

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Post by lamontcg »

likeabbas wrote: post #239
mrguyorama wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tactic isn't about any one thing but rather just keeping a distractable and gullible voting bloc from paying attention to any one thing and forming a coherent ideology or reconsidering their faith in a politician for obvious nefarious things. The republicans are MUCH more effective at doing this than democrats, but they have no qualms about massaging how news gets disseminated in order to hush up bad things and e…

But there are democrats joining republicans in investigating this. Senator Gillibrand and Chick Schumer have introduced legislation specifically targeting this.

Gives the Qanon crazies on the right wing something a bit safer to chew on.

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Post by bloopernova »

LinuxBender wrote: post #137

I identified a UFO yesterday. It was a UFO until I realized a finch flew past my camera too fast for it to focus. I suspect most UFO's are something like this. I would hope that all UFO investigations start with "Why were our sensors failing to do their job?" and/or "Why was someone able to trick/spoof our sensors?" I can see why this would be classified. One should not leak to adversaries how miserably some of our s…

I saw an unidentified object once, gave me a really cold feeling and scared the stuffing out of my wife. For about a minute we were really wondering what the hell this thing could be:

https://imgur.com/gallery/5aOM5me

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Post by bananapub »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #286
nonethewiser wrote: post #175

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China admitted it was their balloon but claimed it wasn’t the government’s, nor for surveillance. Does that mean China is just in on the conspiracy then?

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> Imagine this...China loves to see us spend more and more on "defense", while they plan and execute things such as "The New Silk Road." While we're droning the fuck out of the Middle East, China is making friends in Africa.

if your conspiracy that the US is run by self-serving idiots then I don't know what to tell you

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Post by htss2013 »

iamkoch wrote: post #212

Lucky for earth this all happens in US airspace eh?

If we discovered alien planets filled with different "countries" and had some constraints on the time we could spend visiting each one for observation, wouldn't we likely choose the most militarily and economically powerful one to focus on? It wouldn't be 100% but it's plausible that it would be the main subject.

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Post by jonplackett »

shepardrtc wrote: post #170
jonplackett wrote: post #131

If they did reverse engineer these UFOs, they must have kept it very secret from the NASA SLS team, and EVERYONE at Boeing. If they secretly gave it all to spaceX then maybe we get a _slightly_ compelling argument…

They most likely haven't been able to reverse engineer much, if anything. But I suspect a profit motive was part of keeping it secret. If everyone knows, then other companies will compete to look at the materials and the contractors could lose out on a lot of money.

This makes no sense to me.

People don’t invent an amazing thing and then keep it secret to make a profit. they patent it and make a product or license it.

I am totally willing to believe they managed to keep something secret. Hell if it’s true it means they actually did a pretty shit job because everyone knows the word ‘Roswell’

But I don’t buy that after 50 years they haven’t made a single useful thing out of what they found. Where’s my flying saucer damn it? Where’s some new amazing power source that any craft getting here must have been using?

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Post by LargeTomato »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #268
likeabbas wrote: post #252

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What was your rank? How many SAPs were you read into? Having Top Secret SCI clearance does not give you immediate access to every SAP you request to be read into. Most people are not read into more that a dozen SAPs. I’ll also point out that if Grusch was an unexceptional IC officer, the pentagon would easily be able to discredit him as such. To date, the pentagon has not attempted to say anything about Grusch’s cred…

I answered all this elsewhere My record is public so you can verify by yourself

I don't know you. I don't know how to look up your "record". Why obfuscate? If you came onto HN to spread awareness then help us understand. Otherwise you've come here to brag and you are not helpful.

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Post by LargeTomato »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #209
LapsangGuzzler wrote: post #194

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Right, but somebody has to maintain those IT systems, and if the government is anything like other huge, data-hoarding corporations, then they deploy sysadmins who have an incredible amount of access because they have to in order to maintain the system. IT systems do not run themselves.

Why do you need IT systems for a program that has allegedly been running covertly since a decade before Bletchley Park started building Colossus? Let’s just presume that the people running this are recruited both for their competence and their ability to keep a secret. Would they immediately commission an IT team? NSA needs IT. It’s essential. These programs - if they exist - are all about avoiding recording anything…

>Why do you need IT systems for a program that has allegedly been running covertly since a decade before Bletchley Park started building Colossus?

I'm not sure I follow. You would almost certainly need IT. Just because the program (allegedly) dates back to 1930 doesn't mean it has no use for IT.

The IRS dates back to before 1930 and it has IT.

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