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Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by spamizbad »

wnevets wrote: post #94
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #88

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Who is calling it a new phenomenon? The only thing new about it is the name.

Virtually everyone who complains about it. The complains are almost always about how sensitive people are today , how blazing saddles couldn't be made today or whatever non-sense they use to rage farm. Its almost always framed as a today problem.

When you look at historic examples of cancel culture its almost absurd at how tame their offenses were. Dixie Chicks are another example that come to mind where critical but not controversial statements are made and it ruined people's careers.

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Post by michaelsbradley »

nailer wrote: post #112
michaelsbradley wrote: post #91

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Ratzinger / Benedict absolutely deliberately prevented investigation into, and facilitated (by moving rapist priests into new parishes), child sexual abuse. No, not really at all, actually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI#Sexual_abuse...

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Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

spamizbad wrote: post #121
wnevets wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Virtually everyone who complains about it. The complains are almost always about how sensitive people are today , how blazing saddles couldn't be made today or whatever non-sense they use to rage farm. Its almost always framed as a today problem.

When you look at historic examples of cancel culture its almost absurd at how tame their offenses were. Dixie Chicks are another example that come to mind where critical but not controversial statements are made and it ruined people's careers.

Robert J. Oppenheimer

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by midnitewarrior »

teleforce wrote: post #89

"We belong to Allah, and to Him we return."[1] [1] Inna Lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inna_Lillahi_wa_inna_ilayhi_ra...

We belong to ourselves, and only the weak-minded allow themselves to become enslaved by another. Free yourself.

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by bmmayer1 »

CydeWeys wrote: post #98
bmmayer1 wrote: post #41

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This was arguably one of the first "cancellations" before "cancel culture" was a thing we were talking about. Right or wrong, what she did was definitely courageous and arguably destroyed her career.

> This was arguably one of the first "cancellations" before "cancel culture" was a thing we were talking about. Um, I think the 1,500+ year history of the Catholic church would beg to differ here ... And even before that, Socrates was so canceled for his views he was killed by the state.

That's a fair point. There's arguably an inflection point where media became "mass" media that's hard to pin down but somewhere in the late 1980's-early 1990's where 24 hour news and the internet were in their infancy. I'm sure there's a smart thesis here that a media expert could make ;)

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Post by DoreenMichele »

I always had immense respect for her decision to shave her head when told by music execs to "sex it up." She was gorgeous but she was a singer. She wanted to be hired for her singing.

Being a pretty young woman shouldn't be such a ridiculous hardship. And I kind of wonder how much that radicalized her and how that factors into her conversion to Islam.

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Post by somewhat_drunk »

kodt wrote: post #120
wnevets wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Virtually everyone who complains about it. The complains are almost always about how sensitive people are today , how blazing saddles couldn't be made today or whatever non-sense they use to rage farm. Its almost always framed as a today problem.

I think the real complaint is over who has the power to "cancel" someone, and being upset at how that has shifted.

100%

Re: Sinead O’Connor has died

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

hprotagonist wrote: post #96

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzxTDHMQza8 To stand in the full blast of a crowd that hates you with that amount of poise, and have a voice that is still capable of song or even coherent speech, just beggars my imagination. i hope you have found peace. you were a voice crying out in the wilderness and we did to you what we always do to that.

Thank you for posting that. Her grace and defiance there were extraordinary. Peace for her.
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