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All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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Thanks for the vox link, I can’t load it now, I’m traveling and have no bandwidth. I’m ready to change my mind once I’m reaching a wifi. In interval : how did we do it for millenniums before frozen carbs? Random: Let’s say the Roman army. Ok. They were relying on canned food a lot. ( garnum ) But for sure they were not eating frozen hotdog

>how did we do it for millenniums before frozen carbs? We didn't. Child mortality was higher, populations were smaller, life expectancy was lower and malnutrition and starvation were more common. Our current population size is the direct result of post-industrial farming and food production making calories easily available to the masses, and all kinds of foods accessible year-round. But again, the problem isn't moder…

> Our current population size is the direct result of post-industrial farming and food production making calories easily available to the masses, and all kinds of foods accessible year-round.

Absolutely. Post WW2 food production with NPK intrants and machineries changed how we grow food. ( thanks Bayers ! )

But it’s hardly the sole factor and I would not be surprise if it was not the main driver of multiplication.

Medecine & Basic hygiene also went a long way. As well as the great convenience of bottled energy to move things arounds for cheap.

But I think we talk about a bunch of stuff at once here.

For instance I did not mention biologic produce.

Just … cooking food in a large communal kitchens with large kitchen equipment. The kind where you can cook for 50 people at once.

As opposed to : complex industrial process to build a hot pocket or a frozen breakfast burrito.

One is something most people can be trained to do, and the other needs a team of engineers to design, and another team to build the factory and another to run it.

( watching your vox link )

Oh. Ok. Yeah. I find that part relevant

> But the US government also doesn’t subsidize leafy vegetable crops in the same way it supports wheat, soy, and corn, vital ingredients in a lot of junk food.

I think it says it all. Why is the US government meddling with the market? I live in the Us as well: We don’t pay the real price of food. Yeah produce are labors intensive. But a lot of crap food has hidden cost that should be factored in. ( but that’s yet another topic :) )

To summarize, I find it hard to smallow that buying a frozen product that flew to you and is the result of a complex industrial process is cheaper than whatever grow with sunlight, a hour of care a day and some water.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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Not as much as white people did, and still do. PS your terminology shows your biases.

I’m being called biased by a user with the name snot rocket. What’s wrong with my terminology?

rocketS. Plural.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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> It is amazing how many people complain about "kids these days" while every measurable statistics shows that their generstion was much worse. > drink less alcohol, commit less crime, get teenage pregnant less often Stats lie. Their doctors give them drugs way more fun than alcohol, all of their crimes are unattributable to them because they're being committed in a virtual world where there is no accountability (it's…

> Number of school shootings only ever increases Wow, so when kids get shot, it's their fault too? Holy cow, this is like the definition of victim blaming.. Why do you hate the younger generation?

What? It's their own generation doing the shootings.

The guy you replied to said a million other stupid things and you picked the only accurate one to complain about.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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> Number of school shootings only ever increases Wow, so when kids get shot, it's their fault too? Holy cow, this is like the definition of victim blaming.. Why do you hate the younger generation?

What? It's their own generation doing the shootings. The guy you replied to said a million other stupid things and you picked the only accurate one to complain about.

Overall violence committed by kids went down. Simple as that.

Pluuus it was kids who then protested and lobbied against legalized guns. Aaand it was his generation who called them crisis actors and bullied then. And bullied parents of dead kids.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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It is amazing how many people complain about "kids these days" while every measurable statistics shows that their generstion was much worse.

> It is amazing how many people complain about "kids these days" while every measurable statistics shows that their generstion was much worse. > drink less alcohol, commit less crime, get teenage pregnant less often Stats lie. Their doctors give them drugs way more fun than alcohol, all of their crimes are unattributable to them because they're being committed in a virtual world where there is no accountability (it's…

> it's not the Boomers SWATing each other,

In here, I would point out that SWATing is a thing solely and absolutely because adult cops behave over the top aggressively. SWATing is not a thing in countries with less aggression and violence prone police. Not because their teenagers would be overall better, but because their police forces are harder to be used.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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In Georgia, if you have and maintain a B average its free. I don't agree its fair, though, for the blue collar folks or the people who aren't bright enough to go to college to have to subsidize it. Or in Georgia's case, those with a gambling problem.

Do blue collar workers require healthcare from college educated people? Do they benefit when American industry is competitive on in the international marketplace? We shouldn’t be leaving people behind but the idea is that we all benefit from an educated workforce. There’s plenty of arguments to be made over the details but let’s not miss the big picture here.

Blue collars pay quite a bit for the healthcare benefit without having ti subsidize their studies.

Besides, what s%^%t return for the blue collar! For every, what? 200 paper pushers with a BS white collar job they get one surgeon.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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Easily forgotten? It's brought up in just about every discussion on the subject, including this one, already, by the person you were replying to agree with.

I've never seen it as something that was thought about as part of any reparation ideas.

Why would it be a part of the discussion?

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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We don't need tribalistic comments like yours.

Observation is not tribal. Truth is only tribal of one tribe gives up on it.

You appear to be claiming the latter.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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post #433

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I've never seen it as something that was thought about as part of any reparation ideas.

Why would it be a part of the discussion?

Well if you want to take money from the general population and give to people whose ancestors were harmed by slavery, you need some way to differentiate between ancestors who were harmed by and ancestors who benefited from slavery.

If that isn't part of the discussion, then people are just proposing a welfare system to give money to people based on the color of their skin.

Re: All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

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And Tennessee has no state income tax.

The taxpayers must pay for it somehow. Income tax at least equalizes the sacrifice each taxpayer makes (to some degree). How do TN taxpayers pay for it?

There's no personal income tax in Tennessee.

I suspect that it is cost-beneficial (where-ever the funding source) to have a technical/trade -educated workforce. "Rising waters lift all ships."

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