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That's far fetched. Mozilla still breathes and they have enough cash to start an anti-trust lawsuit in Europe.
Cash that comes from Google . The EFF might start an anti-trust lawsuit, but I don't see Mozilla doing anything of the sort.
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#412Unfortunately, we will all happily accept this. Because using Chrome is "convenient". People will accept anything for convenience — WhatsApp is a good example, where millions of people worldwide happily share and sync their entire phone book with Facebook/Meta. If you care, stop using Chrome. If you criticize this evil move, but continue using Chrome, you are part of the problem.
WhatsApp and Chrome is apples and oranges - not using WhatsApp comes at a social cost (especially in countries like Germany and India where almost everyone uses it) because you can no longer communicate with other WhatsApp users or participate in group chats. Not using Chrome comes with zero cost - you can use the same websites everyone else is using, just use Firefox.
Not quite. Increasingly, as Chrome became popular, you get websites that "work better in Chrome". Or do not work at all in other browsers. And you hear recommendations to "just use Chrome", so that things work. It's just more convenient all around.
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> People don't work for the dignity, they work for the paycheck. I'm sorry but I don't believe that. I do understand that line of thought if you are in a very complicated personal/financial situation but you're stating that the only driver is money, which is clearly wrong...
it may not be your experience, but 95% of us work because we need the money.
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Yeah, you're kind of a little wrong. Sure, there are options. They don't pay like FAANG, like order of magnitude difference.
Lots of people get by fine with less-than-FAANG pay. (FAANG salaries are not an "order of magnitude" higher than salaries at other U.S.-based companies for similar jobs.) FAANG salaries are just at the level at which those companies discovered people are willing to sell their souls, or that is high enough to attract naive people who won't question why it pays more.
Maybe I'm just really bad at marketing/promoting myself or I gasp have to take work "below my pay grade" because it's still work and I've got bills, but I'm not netting six figures doing highly technical work (embedded development, electromechanical development, board layout and design, etc.). In the last five years I've had one in which I grossed six figures. I'd figure I just suck and am an outlier but I keep hearing the same stories from friends who are also not at big shops.
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#415Do you know what puzzles me most? How can software engineers work on something like this? Don't those paid engineers or involved ones have the balls or dignity to walk away? I'm just wondering how they would feel about this (if they feel anything at all). I mean, if I'd be in such a position and asked to push something like this I'd have walked away on the spot, no matter what you offer me. No one at Google is standi…
I'd go even further. If I was asked to run one of these projects I would subvert & sabotage the entire thing while pretending to be 150% on board. Why not get paid by the devil while fighting his plans? You don't even have to make it obvious that you are cratering it. There are so many shiny things in tech you could make it look entirely incidental. Part of me reserves hope that this is what some of the engineers ins…
Re: Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible
#416Do you know what puzzles me most? How can software engineers work on something like this? Don't those paid engineers or involved ones have the balls or dignity to walk away? I'm just wondering how they would feel about this (if they feel anything at all). I mean, if I'd be in such a position and asked to push something like this I'd have walked away on the spot, no matter what you offer me. No one at Google is standi…
That is the danger of a fat paycheck.
And the problem comes when you have to cut back all that, you need a job that can support that lifestyle. I believe the best thing you can do if you have a fat paycheck is to exactly take the opposite approach: keep living simply, save as much as you can, yes give yourself a treat from time to time, but essentially keep an average lifestyle.
The day you need to go elsewhere and you find out that you are against the wall because you need that much money and you can't find a similar income is when you're basically screwed.
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>Firefox is a bit weaker on Android, with an extemely limited set of extensions Definitely not with the Iceweasel fork. https://github.com/fork-maintainers/fenix
Is that the one that harangues you any time you load a page with non-GPL'd JavaScript on it? Because that was incredibly annoying.
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#418I hate to say it, but if you used Chrome to read this, then you're part of the problem. Awful stuff like this wouldn't stand a chance if Google didn't have such a near-monopoly position. For the sake of the open internet, please switch to a different browser. IMO, Firefox is best*, but even something chromium based is probably fine. Just not Google Chrome. * On desktop - Firefox is a bit weaker on Android, with an ex…
I used Brave. But I am considering a switch to the new DuckDuckGo browser, which I assume is just another Chromium browser.
Re: Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible
#419I hate to say it, but if you used Chrome to read this, then you're part of the problem. Awful stuff like this wouldn't stand a chance if Google didn't have such a near-monopoly position. For the sake of the open internet, please switch to a different browser. IMO, Firefox is best*, but even something chromium based is probably fine. Just not Google Chrome. * On desktop - Firefox is a bit weaker on Android, with an ex…
Does Opera count? It uses Chromium.
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It's important to remember they are only commercial efforts. If you can value something other than money it doesn't matter what the corporate web is doing compared to human ingenuity and the internet. Let them waste their time and money write their specs.
As an example, Can you recommend a good tech/hacker video channel that is available somewhere else other than Youtube?
Reliable machinery always has a shop manual, diagrams and prints. Programming languages have tomes of documentation, computing infrastructure has man pages and volumes of commentary, scholarship and trouble shooting have been committed to characters.
Aside from the point and grunt visuals, solid presentations (viewed after the fact when the value of real time interaction is gone) work fine as text.
If you're dyslexic, I get it but TTS systems are extremely solid these days.
What is the point?