If certain publishers want to require ads to view their content, that seems like their prerogative.
Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
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Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
#352Is adding a feature-flag really the same as pushing the feature into the browser immediately? It can easily just be part of a SWE needing the flag in place in order to continue work without impacting anything else, even if that thing never ever launches. In general Google engineers don't tend to work on branches, especially long-running ones. Incremental small code reviews are the expectation. The general process wou…
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And can we retire this inane content-less quip already?
Also I'm old enough that even my children aren't children anymore. How I would dearly love for your statement to be true.
Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
#353Earlier quoted context omitted.
What browser “business”? Chrome makes no money. Don’t you think they are going to fund themselves the same way that Firefox does - via Google ads? No one has paid for a browser in almost 3 decades and even then few did.
Chromebooks are literally a browser that you pay for, and they are heavily embedded in the US education system. Just because they don't sell floppies in a box like it's 1994 doesn't mean these aren't businesses.
Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
#354It's small, but here's a real actionable item that you can do to help: Put a gentle "Use Firefox" (or any other non-Chromium-based browser) message on your website. It doesn't have to be in-your-face, just something small. I've taken my own advice and added it to my own website: https://geeklaunch.io/ (It only appears on Chromium-based browsers.) We can slowly turn the tide, little by little.
This website is designed for Firefox, a web browser that respects your privacy.
if (window.chrome) {
document.getElementById('browser').className = '';
}
Class .hidden must hide the element somehow, in this case I do: .hidden { display: none; }Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Browser application needs to pass a binary image check, and if the browser hash doesn't match Google database, you cannot proceed to the website (since your browser may be corrupted). A major big deal for non main-stream browser, and for non Google browser developers, extension developers (eg. AdBlock), etc. In summary, some websites (like banks, Netflix, etc) will no longer be available for non mainstream browse…
Can you please explain why a third party browser can’t lie about its hash, just like it can lie about it’s user agent?
[0] An ARM exception level that sits above hypervisors and is specifically intended to support trusted execution modes for isolated mini-operating-systems that do this sort of shit
Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
#356Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have a Google account and don't use any Google service, still think that this libertarian message is bullshit, how do you do the free will if the web starts deciding which OS/Browser are authorised to do something? I am not sure we are talking about free will or useful idiots
And how will “breaking up Google” help if the “Chrome company” is still implementing DRM?
Now google has both the need to show ads, and direct power on what people use to see those ads
Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
#357i think if people see websites constantly being broken in chrome, instead they'll pick another browser, that's most people's first instincts when a site doesn't work.
just a take i guess, will it divide the web in 2?
Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
#358Is adding a feature-flag really the same as pushing the feature into the browser immediately? It can easily just be part of a SWE needing the flag in place in order to continue work without impacting anything else, even if that thing never ever launches. In general Google engineers don't tend to work on branches, especially long-running ones. Incremental small code reviews are the expectation. The general process wou…
Companies don't usually make a habit of having their employees work on something they don't intend to pursue.
My point is that at some other company (e.g. Apple) it would be done in secret on a branch somewhere, then big-bang merged later.
Google's process doesn't tend to work that way.
Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
#359Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hear Firefox is mismanaged all the time, but it seems to be a perfectly fine browser for the most part. I hear all about sites that won’t render in comments on this website, but they must all be internal tools or something because I never encounter them.
I'm surprised not to see more love for Librewolf here on HN. It's just the latest Firefox release, recompiled without all the Mozilla telemetry, and with all the settings flipped to more secure/private defaults so all the tracking features are opt-in instead of opt-out.
Firefox is actually a pretty good example of good branding. It’s short, rolls off the tongue, has pleasant alliteration, and evokes mental imagery.
Re: Google is already pushing WEI into Chromium
#360It's small, but here's a real actionable item that you can do to help: Put a gentle "Use Firefox" (or any other non-Chromium-based browser) message on your website. It doesn't have to be in-your-face, just something small. I've taken my own advice and added it to my own website: https://geeklaunch.io/ (It only appears on Chromium-based browsers.) We can slowly turn the tide, little by little.
This advice has strong 1998 vibes.