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Post by Der_Einzige »

dang wrote: post #197
1270018080 wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is why we need a union, despite what libertarians think they are above.

> Which is why we need a union, despite what libertarian fetishist tech bros think they are above Please make your substantive points without snark or name-calling. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . Edit: it's not good to stealth-edit your comments after the fact, especially when doing so deprives replies of their original meaning. If you're going to make an edit that…

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Post by polski-g »

iamzamek wrote: post #307
cj wrote: post #152

Side note to the remote founders/employers out there: Have you been plagued by applicant fraud? We've found for all of our remote engineering roles, we get 100's of amazing applicants who are all fake (clearly not actually in the US) once you get them on a screening call. They're often reading from a script, broken english, and say strange things like they're born and raised in Texas, yet can't speak fluent English o…

Hey, what do you think - how can we "repair" this process? I mean, what would be a perfect solution to not require photo ID verification video and get rid of scammers?

File a lien on their house if they do commit fraud.

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Post by la64710 »

eldaisfish wrote: post #276
baristaGeek wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Run a background check, sign confidentiality and DP agreements and hire someone who sells you trust. Again, something you would do in any given modality of work.

this sounds good on paper but how effective - really - are background checks outside the developed world? Even inside the developed world, language becomes a big stumbling block.

If you are so worried don’t hire remote. You get what you pay for.

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Post by la64710 »

cj wrote: post #152

Side note to the remote founders/employers out there: Have you been plagued by applicant fraud? We've found for all of our remote engineering roles, we get 100's of amazing applicants who are all fake (clearly not actually in the US) once you get them on a screening call. They're often reading from a script, broken english, and say strange things like they're born and raised in Texas, yet can't speak fluent English o…

Again it’s a trade off. The same risks with remote existed in offshoring also. Nothing new. You got to have a solid contract and good project management and work with reputed companies. But sometimes it will just make more sense to not do remote remote hiring. One size do not fit all.

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Post by junar »

moomoo11 wrote: post #302
cj wrote: post #152

Side note to the remote founders/employers out there: Have you been plagued by applicant fraud? We've found for all of our remote engineering roles, we get 100's of amazing applicants who are all fake (clearly not actually in the US) once you get them on a screening call. They're often reading from a script, broken english, and say strange things like they're born and raised in Texas, yet can't speak fluent English o…

Is it allowed to put “must be US citizen”. Honestly as an American I would much prefer to hire Americans from Midwest or Texas, than someone outside my country.

Requiring that an applicant is legally authorized to work in the US is allowed. Requiring that they be a US citizen is not.

https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-inquiries-and-citizenshi...

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Post by jselysianeagle »

lossolo wrote: post #308
jselysianeagle wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering that literally hundreds of thousands of qualified people have been laid off this year alone, many of them devs, and plenty of anecdotes on this and other tech forums/chat groups about how the job market has shifted to favor employers, I think it isn't wildly irrational to believe the person you're responding to. Sure, "the plural of anecdote isn't data" and all that, but talk to recruiters and you'll hear…

> Considering that literally hundreds of thousands of qualified people have been laid off this year alone, many of them devs, and plenty of anecdotes on this and other tech forums/chat groups about how the job market has shifted to favor employers, I think it isn't wildly irrational to believe the person you're responding to. "In 2023, the software engineering industry faces a record-breaking shortage of professional…

> In 2023, the software engineering industry faces a record-breaking shortage of professionals. This skills crisis has resulted in an astonishing 1 million tech job vacancies that still need to be fulfilled. Reports suggest that the number of US job vacancies, due to a lack of talent, will reach 85.2 million by 2030.

This doesn't disprove any of what's been shared earlier in this thread. Because of the layoffs and uncertainty around the future effects of interest rates on the wider economy, many companies have laid off thousands and are being much pickier about their hiring.

So even though there's vacancies, that doesn't mean the experience of seeking a job is as easy as it used to be - just the opposite, in fact. This is what many mean by "the market has shifted".

I don't know if there's studies out there conclusively proving that it's gotten harder to find a job (longer to land an offer, lower salaries on offer on average, # of remote jobs available, # of applicants applying to them etc), but I think we might never find such to begin with because these specific metrics might not be as keenly tracked.

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Post by polski-g »

moomoo11 wrote: post #302
cj wrote: post #152

Side note to the remote founders/employers out there: Have you been plagued by applicant fraud? We've found for all of our remote engineering roles, we get 100's of amazing applicants who are all fake (clearly not actually in the US) once you get them on a screening call. They're often reading from a script, broken english, and say strange things like they're born and raised in Texas, yet can't speak fluent English o…

Is it allowed to put “must be US citizen”. Honestly as an American I would much prefer to hire Americans from Midwest or Texas, than someone outside my country.

It is not allowed. But you can say "Must be able to attain a US security clearance"

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Post by csbingel »

iamzamek wrote: post #307
cj wrote: post #152

Side note to the remote founders/employers out there: Have you been plagued by applicant fraud? We've found for all of our remote engineering roles, we get 100's of amazing applicants who are all fake (clearly not actually in the US) once you get them on a screening call. They're often reading from a script, broken english, and say strange things like they're born and raised in Texas, yet can't speak fluent English o…

Hey, what do you think - how can we "repair" this process? I mean, what would be a perfect solution to not require photo ID verification video and get rid of scammers?

I'm pretty sure it's an EEO violation to request ID or a photo before hiring.

"Similarly, employers should not ask for a photograph of an applicant. If needed for identification purposes, a photograph may be obtained after an offer of employment is made and accepted."

https://www.eeoc.gov/prohibited-employment-policiespractices

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Post by treeman79 »

vvpan wrote: post #121
zer8k wrote: post #28

> on HN The most important subtext. There are engineer friends of mine laid off from remote companies that, almost 5 months later, cannot get work. These aren't braindead seatwarmers either. The software engineer market has shifted under our feet DRAMATICALLY. Any software engineer with a position should try to keep it for as long as they possible can.

Yeah, this is all anecdotal, but I'll add my 2c - been in the business for something like 15 years and was looking for work in May. It has never felt deader, remote or onsite. Usually recruiters are beating down your door. This time not even friends could get me any interviews. The way I got a job was by writing some technical articles and establishing a relationship with a very energetic VC person. I asked him if he…

This is what crash of 2000 was like for me. Multiple calls a day from recruiters. Sometime around June or so, the calls Stopped. Just stopped. Six months later I was working at RadioShack.

Along with a number of engineers with 10-20 years experience.

Took me 3 years to get back into a tech job.

This is starting to feel the same.

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Post by CoastalCoder »

freedomben wrote: post #320
CoastalCoder wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me know if you want to discuss soundproofing details. I'm happy to share some lessons learned.

Yeah that would be great! Is there much you can do without covering all the walls with foam? Even that might be a possibility, although I don't know if my wife would permit it

Cool, will DM you.
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