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Crucial system of ocean currents is collapsing; ‘affects everyone on the planet’

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Re: Crucial system of ocean currents is collapsing; ‘affects everyone on the planet’

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Post by deadeye »

candiodari wrote: post #3

Why does everything has to be put into the political view? If this ocean current is collapsing because of the current temperature anomaly, then it has happened. Nothing that any amount of CO2 limiting will do about it, because even the most optimistic IPCC projections with 100% adoption only say temperature will stabilize ~2060. That base-case is worse than the worst case considered in this paper. So this should be t…

"If this ocean current is collapsing because of the current temperature anomaly, then it has happened."

It must be my reading comprehension that's off, but what has happened? What is "it", the ocean current collapsing?

The thing is, I don't see anywhere in the article that says it is collapsing.

"A new study published Tuesday in the journal Nature, found that the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current – of which the Gulf Stream is a part – could collapse around the middle of the century, or even as early as 2025."

Nowhere does it say it is in the process of collapse, at least that I could find.

Re: Crucial system of ocean currents is collapsing; ‘affects everyone on the planet’

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Post by bad_alloc »

candiodari wrote: post #3

Why does everything has to be put into the political view? If this ocean current is collapsing because of the current temperature anomaly, then it has happened. Nothing that any amount of CO2 limiting will do about it, because even the most optimistic IPCC projections with 100% adoption only say temperature will stabilize ~2060. That base-case is worse than the worst case considered in this paper. So this should be t…

> Why does everything has to be put into the political view?

BECAUSE THE FUTURE VIABILITY OF THE PLANET DEPENDS ON POLITICAL DECISIONS!

Re: Crucial system of ocean currents is collapsing; ‘affects everyone on the planet’

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Post by ta1243 »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #9
jokoon wrote: post #4

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A war economy just gives the government control of more stuff; it doesn't reduce their incentive to use the stuff. Faith in that is essentiañly faith in autocracy. Proper pricing of externalities would be better.

Non-carbon energy production in the UK tends to be delayed by years through planning appeals as some rich person doesn't want "their view" spoiled.

In 1939 the UK built dozens or hundreds of airbases across the country. No consultation, no hang wringing, just got on and did it.

Climate change is a larger threat to the UK than Nazi Germany. We need to treat it as such.

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