The burden of Long Covid “so large as to be unfathomable”

Post by whimsicalism » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:24 PM UTC

strken wrote: post #72

monero-xmr wrote: post #28

There is a lack of hard scientific evidence definitively proving this. However you may know in your bones that this is real, from lived experience or from people you know. Please keep that in mind when you dismiss other things that lack definitive scientific evidence. We as humans seem to pick and choose which currently unverified things to believe and which to dismiss.

I think it's less "this is bullshit" and more "this is receiving far more attention than long influenza or long any other infection". We've fixated on long COVID to a degree that might not be productive and which - if it has a psychosomatic component in some cases - might be causing more long COVID.

Post by xdennis » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:25 PM UTC

Post by cjbgkagh » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:26 PM UTC

Nanana909 wrote: post #80

retrac wrote: post #48

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I cannot comprehend a position of total long COVID denial, though I have encountered it online. Every virus you can think of that causes acute illness, can cause long term or even permanent damage. Sometimes rarely, sometimes often. Even the mildest common cold viruses, can, in very rare cases, be severe enough to cause pneumonia which causes scarring which leads to permanent loss of lung function. Hepatitis A is usu…

> For COVID to cause severe illness in a few % -- enough to kill in rare cases -- but to not cause permanent lung or heart or kidney damage etc. in some significant percent who got very sick is implausible, even incoherent with all other theories about how viral diseases cause disease. So then why do we never talk about long flu? Long meningitis? I don’t think people are in disbelief COVID can cause long term damage…

Post by kdmccormick » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

treprinum wrote: post #57

I spent two years in bed, sometimes sleeping 16 hours a day and feeling like passing out just from walking 100m. All my tests were fine, all doctors thought it's just "anxiety" and basically ignored me until I had what looked like a stroke when they started taking it slightly more seriously. However, given all the tests were OK I went in circles from one doctor to another when I had better days, or being completely b…

Post by whimsicalism » Tue, Jul 25, 2023, 4:28 PM UTC

treprinum wrote: post #102

whimsicalism wrote: post #70

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I think it is certainly true, but I also think that lay people significantly underestimate psychosomnia and the power of placebo and having a more active lifestyle.

This was very different; prior to that I used to do 1-2h of strong cardio or lifting activity a day, was studying at multiple universities and worked multiple consulting gigs. This was like being hit by a train suddenly, going from hero to zero. I've noticed that positive thoughts helped but I attribute it to brain being low on processing power and negative thoughts taking more processing power/energy, causing even m…