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Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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I mean... mistakes get made. It shouldn't be hard to get this one reversed if that's all there is to it, but hiring a lawyer is absolutely the right way to make that happen. By all means, try to recover attorney's fees after the fact. But sticking your head in the sand and complaining about it isn't going to get you very far.

This goes well beyond mistakes, it is utterly absurd that the judge would not look at this more closely absent a defendant in a country on the other side of the planet, especially when this kind of money is involved. It's not a $50 parking ticket. Imagine yourself in their situation, having to defend a legal case in court in a place where you've never been to that has no bearing on anything you've done in your life.…

Yes, the USA is the worst country in the world. Except for all the others.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

#83

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Hire a lawyer and get it sorted out pretty easily, I would think.

Most people cannot afford a lawyer, even if they work full time.

This seems like the kind of thing where you could probably get a public interest firm to help out pro bono.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

#84
post #53

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That's the thing I don't understand about people who live in the USA and their absolute hatred towards a National ID system. It would be a political nightmare for them to even suggest anything like that. Even their "new" FedNow service is being as governmental overreach for "reasons".

Japan’s My Number is also overreach surveillance that many are protesting. Don’t pretend it’s an American thing

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Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

#85
The tl;dr is that the victim was Australian and the court proceedings were heard in the US. Unless they're put before a court in Australia she's under no obligation to pay. Knowing a bit about Australian society it would not go down well if they tried.

I would've used the money she spent on a US IP lawyer to sue Medibank for negligently allowing her personal information to be hacked and sold on the dark web. At the very least I hope she's part of the class action.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

#86
"Identity Theft" shouldn't even be a thing. Someone falsifies documents and takes out a loan or something that should not have been approved. That's bank fraud and should be an issue entirely between the fraudster and the lender/bank.

Somehow banks have re-named it from "bank fraud" to "identity theft," deftly shifting responsibility onto some unrelated third party, who now has to deal with it. "Your identity was stolen! That makes you the victim. Now go help fix it!"

Banks should not be able to shift the blame. They did a crappy job and lent money or opened an account for someone they shouldn't have. They are the ones who should bear the burden of mopping up their mistake.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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If she was compromised by credential stuffing at PayPal, I have to say I'm disappointed. I actually wrote the anti-credential-stuffing code 20 years ago. It was one of the core component of PayPal security. We were one of the first sites to get those kinds of attacks so we got good at stopping them. I would be sad if that skillset had been lost.

If Paypal required non-sms based 2FA on all logins, would that help stop the issue?

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

#88
post #79

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Cop oversight stats largely don’t exist because it would challenge their authority

Isn't that basically conspiracy theory logic? ie. "This thing is totally true! Evidence? That doesn't exist because The Powers That Be are suppressing it!"

You could present all the evidence that cops have lots of effective oversight, but you cant.

Instead, it has been widely documented that they freqently flaunt programs intended to provide oversight, almost never are successfully prosecuted or punished, and commit homicides with regularity.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

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This goes well beyond mistakes, it is utterly absurd that the judge would not look at this more closely absent a defendant in a country on the other side of the planet, especially when this kind of money is involved. It's not a $50 parking ticket. Imagine yourself in their situation, having to defend a legal case in court in a place where you've never been to that has no bearing on anything you've done in your life.…

Yes, the USA is the worst country in the world. Except for all the others.

I really can't connect your response to what I wrote.

Re: Byron Bay data breach victim told to pay Adidas, NBA $1.2M by US courts

#90
post #79

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Cop oversight stats largely don’t exist because it would challenge their authority

Isn't that basically conspiracy theory logic? ie. "This thing is totally true! Evidence? That doesn't exist because The Powers That Be are suppressing it!"

There have been a series of US Supreme Court decisions that allow local law enforcement and prosecutors to a.) not have to reveal any statistics on crime and race b.) enormous discretion on powers to stop and arrest such that law enforcement can give conflicting reasons for each action, i.e. this person was suspicious because they were driving too fast, this person was driving too closely to speed limit and every variation of that. The only thing they are not permitted to do is say "we did this because of the color of their skin." McCleskey v. Kemp is one of the cases in a long line of cases that has led to a catch-22, racial discrimination by law enforcement and prosecution is against the law, but as long as they don't admit to it there is no evidence because one cannot get discovery on the past history of law enforcement and prosecution.
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