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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by megous »

batch12 wrote: post #521
megous wrote: post #514

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Pedophilia != child sexual abuse. Just like being attracted to women doesn't mean you're a rapist. You can be, though. Also consumption of any kind of distrubing porn doesn't mean you actually want to do things you see in it in the real life. This is about the same principle like when people are watching action movies (which is an accepted kind of often very disturbing cinematography), most don't want to go around an…

> Also consumption of any kind of distrubing porn doesn't mean you actually want to do things you see in it in the real life. No, but it does mean you support the abuse necessary to produce it.

Not all porn is produced by abusing someone. Not even all CP. So your statement can't be generally true.

Anyway, my point was that pedophilia being mostly caused by child abuse doesn't make much sense. Pedophilia is not child abuse by itself, and thus there's no cycle.

Cycle of abuse would just make you abuse someone in the similar way you were abused. (regardless of any attraction to the victim)

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by P_I_Staker »

hakavlad wrote: post #539
P_I_Staker wrote: post #533

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Gross. You’re abusing the child any time you watch it.

I don't abuse kids whether or not I watch CP. Please provide evidence if you are making serious accusations.

You here means anyone watching it, but interesting to see you get so defensive. The idea that you think "watching CP != abuse" is suspicious to begin with.

I wasn't, but it would be reasonable to accuse you of being a pedophile based on this.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by pdntspa »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #494
pdntspa wrote: post #477

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> I think your starting point is still kinda skewed, because "heteronormative" is a made-up thing by society rather than an actual thing someone can be. It's a term rooted in the conditions that make sex a reproductive act and not just something that feels good

Which is getting back to the religious crap of "sex is only for reproduction, between a married couple". Yes sex can result in reproduction, but I think making that its primary purpose misses the point. We experience a desire to fuck, separate from our desire to reproduce. They're two different things that are only related in a tiny minority of circumstances. Classifying someone's sexuality by its possible reproducti…

No, it's not. You are reading into things. There is no elevating one modality above the other, they are related but different.

Why are you projecting your own biases into my statement? Call a spade a spade. What you take away beyond that is on you.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by hakavlad »

P_I_Staker wrote: post #542
hakavlad wrote: post #539

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't abuse kids whether or not I watch CP. Please provide evidence if you are making serious accusations.

You here means anyone watching it, but interesting to see you get so defensive. The idea that you think "watching CP != abuse" is suspicious to begin with. I wasn't, but it would be reasonable to accuse you of being a pedophile based on this.

>accuse you of being a pedophile based on this

Please read the diagnostic criteria: https://icd.who.int/browse11/l-m/en#/http%3a%2f%2fid.who.int... -- there is no mention of CP.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by hakavlad »

P_I_Staker wrote: post #542
hakavlad wrote: post #539

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't abuse kids whether or not I watch CP. Please provide evidence if you are making serious accusations.

You here means anyone watching it, but interesting to see you get so defensive. The idea that you think "watching CP != abuse" is suspicious to begin with. I wasn't, but it would be reasonable to accuse you of being a pedophile based on this.

JFYI: Pedophile != Child abuser.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Ajedi32 »

brightlancer wrote: post #334
ReactiveJelly wrote: post #124

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I'm a Tor user. It's also hard to determine because so much of the web is read-only or downright inaccessible via Tor. Most big sites use a chain of reputation like this: 1. To have an account on our site, you need a reputable email. Mailinator doesn't count. 2. To get a reputable email (GMail, Outlook, etc.) you need to sacrifice a phone number to receive texts to prove you aren't a bot. 3. There are no free VoIP se…

> The gratis web is fading to nothing. Everyone wants something. None of it is truly free. The fediverse instances will run as long as they get donations, but charities are subject to a tragedy of the commons. They will eventually close up registrations if enough humans join for the parasite bots to follow them. You blame "everyone wants something" but it's more clear in your last sentence: abuse by unverified users.…

And to make that a bit more concrete, ProtonMail accepts Bitcoin and will let you create a truly anonymous account if you pay for their premium plan via that method.

Though to be fair it's actually pretty hard to obtain Bitcoin anonymously. Monero would be better. And this doesn't really solve the phone number problem.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by hotdogscout »

Ensorceled wrote: post #518
Ms-J wrote: post #228

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"especially when we offend" This is a fundamental premise of freedom of speech and a large reason as to why it exists. For some reason your comment was flagged, I vouched and voted it up.

>> "especially when we offend" > This is a fundamental premise of freedom of speech and a large reason as to why it exists. I cringe whenever somebody makes this point. Offensive speech isn't even in the top 10 reasons to support free speech. It isn't a reason at all. Tolerating offensive speech is something we have to do to make free speech work, it's one of the "cons" not the "pros".

If speech is not offensive it wouldn't be suppressed therefore making the right to free speech irrelevant.

You're free to say you like pickles over carrots in Saudi Arabia. Offensive doesn't necessarily mean demeaning of human rights.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by P_I_Staker »

hakavlad wrote: post #545
P_I_Staker wrote: post #542

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You here means anyone watching it, but interesting to see you get so defensive. The idea that you think "watching CP != abuse" is suspicious to begin with. I wasn't, but it would be reasonable to accuse you of being a pedophile based on this.

JFYI: Pedophile != Child abuser.

If they have pictures on their PCs they are. It's weird that you're arguing with this.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by hakavlad »

P_I_Staker wrote: post #548
hakavlad wrote: post #545

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JFYI: Pedophile != Child abuser.

If they have pictures on their PCs they are. It's weird that you're arguing with this.

>If they have pictures on their PCs they are.

If I have porn with men on my computer, it does not mean that I am gay or have raped men. Your reasoning is absurd.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by ragequitta »

grepfru_it wrote: post #253
ragequitta wrote: post #139

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Google maps offers this functionality. I've had my local map and maps of any place I regularly go to downloaded for many years.

It will eventually cease to exist. I went to Grenada in 2014 and used offline maps to drive around the island. In 2015 the tablet suffered an accident and I powered it off to deal with it later. 5 years later I power it back on without internet connectivity. Turns out the maps expired. So much for many years

While I agree this is potentially an issue, most people with most devices won't be away from the internet for years. If you want it to be apocalypse proof for when the internet goes down you should probably get a paper map.
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