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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by anthk »

brightlancer wrote: post #299
EGreg wrote: post #165

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Well, if actual harm to people and children is what we want to reduce, then perhaps decriminalizing an innocuous (as in no victims) form of it may actually reduce the harm to actual people. Just like the cases for decriminalizing prostitution and drugs: https://time.com/longform/portugal-drug-use-decriminalizatio... And btw -- it's not just about thoughtcrime, it's a major double standard, seems to me. In the West it…

Legalized drug sales and prostitution among adults have _fewer_ victims but that doesn't mean no victims. Legalization is better but it isn't a panacea. > Such as the movie "Hostel". I never understood why that is OK, why the music industry has pushed gangsta rap etc. for decades, but then something like Cuties out of France which actually critiques the hypersexualization of teenage girls that is taking place, causes…

Another similar case on shameless promotion due to fear it's the Spanish media depicting squatters as the worst evil ever, specially in morning TV talk shows targeted to middle aged women (housewifes/mothers with children).

Guess what? between the show sections, (and shows themselves) they are trying to sell home alarms with lots of ads in the morning to the viewers. Bingo.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Timber-6539 »

wallaBBB wrote: post #506
Timber-6539 wrote: post #496

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Provide just one example. Am curious.

Here is a general text on that: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-wit... Exact examples are hard to find in the press. One that comes to mind is from a Belgian Telco company that was internally hacked by an employee hiding behind NordVPN. Nord when approached by the telco responded with the usual no logs, but after the telco involved the Interpol, logs were given and the attacker doxxed.

> Here is a general text on that: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-wit...

This article (edited multiple times!) is not evidence of anything, let alone Nord co-operating with law enforcement to log customer data.

> Exact examples are hard to find in the press.

You said there are countless examples of Nord logging user data, why are you backtracking now?

> One that comes to mind is from a Belgian Telco company that was internally hacked by an employee hiding behind NordVPN. Nord when approached by the telco responded with the usual no logs, but after the telco involved the Interpol, logs were given and the attacker doxxed.

Give source or it did not happen.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Nanana909 »

michaelmrose wrote: post #405
Nanana909 wrote: post #363

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Is it that wild? There are a few questions we have to ask 1. Do these agencies have the motivation to do the above? I think the answer here is an obvious yes to everyone 2. Do these agencies have the technical ability to hack the VPNs, the finances to pay them for access, or some other reasonable measure to coerce compliance? If 1 and 2 are both true, then the OP claim is also certainly true. Given that 1 is true, I…

It's a crime. Maintaining continual access to every major vpn provider increases the probability of getting caught breaking the law towards one while continually risking the methods required to acquire such access each time your implant is discovered. If you are using unknown exploits not passed on to relevant software projects each discovery further risks said exploit being discovered then used against us individual…

What crime is it for the NSA/CIA, who are explicitly tasked by the government with gathering intelligence on foreign agencies, to hack say Mullwad, a Swedish entity? That’s like saying it’s a murder for the police to shoot someone who has hostages. I mean yes it’s the same action, but when it’s been deemed justified by the government, it’s not really a crime in the same way.

A crime in Sweden perhaps. Who will Sweden charge? Do they even have names for individual employees?

It’s also a “crime” to sell false and compromised products to customers yet CryptoAG existed for decades.

> At such time as you become an international drug lord your privacy is likely to fall apart when Sam starts serving providers who do business with you.

Then you’re simply agreeing under point 2, I.e they have they ability to coerce cooperation when desired

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Post by megous »

Tade0 wrote: post #381
ip26 wrote: post #250

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There are many, many… It’s a little puzzling to me still why this is. Physical attraction to almost-adults isn’t some big mystery, but most cp is something else entirely.

It's a chain of abuse. Most paedophiles were abused in childhood.

Pedophilia != child sexual abuse.

Just like being attracted to women doesn't mean you're a rapist.

You can be, though.

Also consumption of any kind of distrubing porn doesn't mean you actually want to do things you see in it in the real life. This is about the same principle like when people are watching action movies (which is an accepted kind of often very disturbing cinematography), most don't want to go around and shoot/stab people.

Some very tiny percentage will, of course.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by soco »

mschuster91 wrote: post #142
npsomaratna wrote: post #16

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This isn't a parody, right? I mean, surely no-one would (seriously) say this in public in real life? Right?

Andrew Tate said essentially the same. Turns out corrupt police don't like it when someone brags with that fact. Not that I'd shed any tear for Tate or the other guy though, both deserve all they get and more.

Tate is also arrested currently, so looks like this kind of "honesty" has a price. And in general I'm pretty sure that bribery even when done abroad would get you in trouble in your own country, so I'm quite surprised by such statements put like that in the open.

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Post by indigo945 »

snypher wrote: post #469
fomine3 wrote: post #402

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It's a wild take but the US did the wild operation for big techs (Prism)

Room 641A https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A No door handle!

    Room 641A is located in the SBC Communications building at 611 Folsom
    Street, San Francisco, three floors of which were occupied by AT&T before 
    SBC purchased AT&T. The room was referred to in internal AT&T documents as 
    the SG3 [Study Group 3] Secure Room.
    
    The room measures about 24 by 48 feet (7.3 by 14.6 m) and contains several 
    racks of equipment [...].
The oddly detailed description along with the badly lit photo makes this read like an SCP entry.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by wallaBBB »

Timber-6539 wrote: post #512
wallaBBB wrote: post #506

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is a general text on that: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-wit... Exact examples are hard to find in the press. One that comes to mind is from a Belgian Telco company that was internally hacked by an employee hiding behind NordVPN. Nord when approached by the telco responded with the usual no logs, but after the telco involved the Interpol, logs were given and the attacker doxxed.

> Here is a general text on that: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-wit... This article (edited multiple times!) is not evidence of anything, let alone Nord co-operating with law enforcement to log customer data. > Exact examples are hard to find in the press. You said there are countless examples of Nord logging user data, why are you backtracking now? > One that comes to mind is from a Belgia…

>This article (edited multiple times!) is not evidence of anything, let alone Nord co-operating with law enforcement to log customer data.

Not sure what is not clear from this: “We will comply with lawful requests as long as they are delivered according to all the laws and regulations," NordVPN says. "We are a company that protects the security and privacy of our customers, but we operate according to laws and regulations.”

Why you don't find articles googling is that Nord puts a lot of effort in removing or burring it (google their dispute with TorGuard). Same what they tried to do with the breach in 2018, they half-ass disclosed at least 6 months later after being known to them. (at a point in time the breach already leaked)

Example I gave was a talk in a hacker conference, with no recording (common request for hacker conference talks).

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Ensorceled »

Ms-J wrote: post #228
dudeinjapan wrote: post #153

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"especially when we offend" This is a fundamental premise of freedom of speech and a large reason as to why it exists. For some reason your comment was flagged, I vouched and voted it up.

>> "especially when we offend"

> This is a fundamental premise of freedom of speech and a large reason as to why it exists.

I cringe whenever somebody makes this point. Offensive speech isn't even in the top 10 reasons to support free speech. It isn't a reason at all.

Tolerating offensive speech is something we have to do to make free speech work, it's one of the "cons" not the "pros".

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Post by ChoHag »

mhitza wrote: post #113
CSMastermind wrote: post #84

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I've heard similar things about Romania and Bulgaria which are both EU countries.

Romania has high levels of corruption, but when we entered the EU we had high levels of overt corruption. I'll never forget during the presidential elections of early 2010s (or around that time) (we joined EU in 2007) when a member of the loosing party (which would then become our prime minister), Victor Ponta, stated frankly, in an interview, that they lost because his party stole fewer votes (bribing the poor with…

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Timber-6539 »

wallaBBB wrote: post #517
Timber-6539 wrote: post #512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Here is a general text on that: https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-wit... This article (edited multiple times!) is not evidence of anything, let alone Nord co-operating with law enforcement to log customer data. > Exact examples are hard to find in the press. You said there are countless examples of Nord logging user data, why are you backtracking now? > One that comes to mind is from a Belgia…

>This article (edited multiple times!) is not evidence of anything, let alone Nord co-operating with law enforcement to log customer data. Not sure what is not clear from this: “We will comply with lawful requests as long as they are delivered according to all the laws and regulations," NordVPN says. "We are a company that protects the security and privacy of our customers, but we operate according to laws and regula…

> Not sure what is not clear from this: “We will comply with lawful requests as long as they are delivered according to all the laws and regulations," NordVPN says. "We are a company that protects the security and privacy of our customers, but we operate according to laws and regulations.”

This is obviously true for every VPN company that intends to keep operating. And in itself is not evidence of anything.

If all the links were taken down, how come no one saved a copy on wayback machine because the burden of proof is on you to provide these backups every time you make such allegations. Otherwise I'll just assume you are just being disingenuous.

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