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Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

reisse wrote: post #51
sschueller wrote: post #8

This man is burning anything that had any value at Twitter. From an extremely valuable list of verified users to the name which is even used as a verb. There is absolutely no reason to rename Twitter. The name isn't even that stained compared to like Comcast or what ever the name was of that phone company in the 90s that sucked so bad it was renamed.

> From an extremely valuable list of verified users Was it extremely valuable? I know a lot of people (myself included) viewed blue checkmarks as a "company PR account/mass-media journalist/celebrity account maintained by SMM" sign. The most interesting people I followed on Twitter were not verified.

A verified account managed by PR/SMM is probably better than a scam account of the same person offering you to get rich with this one weird trick.

A verified account of a newspaper is probably better than a fake one, spreading false news about the war in Ukraine, for example.

Managed by PR or not, a verified account stood for the person behind this account, and guarantees this is their (proxy or direct) opinion or a real fact about upcoming event, or information about a past event. Right now a verified account means nothing.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by jacquesm »

dooraven wrote: post #21
dutchCourage wrote: post #13

What does the path to success look like for "the everything app"? I can't picture it. So far it looks like they're acting like a FAANG in a "fake it til you make it" move to try to attract money. But not only do they not have the scale, Twitter is also losing its place as the reference app for live text updates.

If they can replicate WeChat it might be a good outcome, since WeChat is essentially the everything app for most China Problem is that the CCP is basically intimately tied to it so WeChat has massive advantages there.

There isn't a chance that I'll ever use something like WeChat. I keep all of those components on separate companies because I don't ever want to be tied into something that has that kind of power over my life. Having choice is far better than integration.

I've switched banks 3 times over four decades, ISP more times than that, comms channels a couple of times as well (most recently due to Musk's acquisition of Twitter) and will probably do so again at least once. Tying it all together with an 'everything app' seems like a stupendously stupid move to me (from the consumers perspective). Especially with an unhinged guy like Musk at the helm.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by jacquesm »

simbolit wrote: post #33

Elon Musk is addicted to the messaging app formerly known as Twitter. Elon Musk seems to believe everyone else is addicted to the same degree. Everything he does with twitter only makes sense to me given the assumption that all users have to stay and they can not possibly leave. How many people are like "I don't want an everything app, I just wanna read silly tweets"? This demographic apparently doesn't exist in his…

> the messaging app formerly known as Twitter.

I like that. Permission to re-use?

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by kolektiv »

Quinzel wrote: post #16

It seems like Elon Musk has a vision of creating a platform business model that encompasses all his business endeavors and more. I don’t like Twitter, nor do I like Elon Musk, but it seems clear to me that he has a strategic plan. I doubt he gives two shits about what Twitter is or was - when he bought Twitter he acquired a lot of talent, and a place to start to launch his platform - of which he envisions the world b…

He did acquire a lot of talent. Then he fired the majority of it and slagged off/alienated the rest, losing most of the institutional knowledge gained over years. He then systematically torched any external goodwill with both advertisers and users, before torpedoing the brand identity which had cut through to non-tech culture.

At some point, you have to just admit that he might not be playing 5D Chess, but 1D Connect Four, and he's still losing.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by 3cats-in-a-coat »

HlessClaudesman wrote: post #38
matsemann wrote: post #4

Twitter has managed to get so many words to be common. Like it's a "tweet", not "a post on facebook". It's a "retweet" or "quote tweet", not "something I shared on facebook". Why throw all this deep brand recognition away? It's like people say "google it", and google suddenly changing the name of their search.

"I xed it." the new verb sounds like using a dodgy porn site.

Ironically it sounds like the alternate pronouns he hates so much.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by jacquesm »

kolektiv wrote: post #64
Quinzel wrote: post #16

It seems like Elon Musk has a vision of creating a platform business model that encompasses all his business endeavors and more. I don’t like Twitter, nor do I like Elon Musk, but it seems clear to me that he has a strategic plan. I doubt he gives two shits about what Twitter is or was - when he bought Twitter he acquired a lot of talent, and a place to start to launch his platform - of which he envisions the world b…

He did acquire a lot of talent. Then he fired the majority of it and slagged off/alienated the rest, losing most of the institutional knowledge gained over years. He then systematically torched any external goodwill with both advertisers and users, before torpedoing the brand identity which had cut through to non-tech culture. At some point, you have to just admit that he might not be playing 5D Chess, but 1D Connect…

> but 1D Connect Four

I think we're down to noughts and crosses.

     o| |o
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     x| |
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     x| |o
oops...

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by tentacleuno »

sschueller wrote: post #8

This man is burning anything that had any value at Twitter. From an extremely valuable list of verified users to the name which is even used as a verb. There is absolutely no reason to rename Twitter. The name isn't even that stained compared to like Comcast or what ever the name was of that phone company in the 90s that sucked so bad it was renamed.

I think Elon is a bit misguided, especially in his business ventures in the UK. For instance, it seems egregious to most people that Elon expects people to pay £100 a year for a social media site in the midst of a Cost of Living crisis.

Personally, I don't see what the hype is around Elon. I think he's done good things, but in other ways he's not a very good businessman.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by threeseed »

reisse wrote: post #51
sschueller wrote: post #8

This man is burning anything that had any value at Twitter. From an extremely valuable list of verified users to the name which is even used as a verb. There is absolutely no reason to rename Twitter. The name isn't even that stained compared to like Comcast or what ever the name was of that phone company in the 90s that sucked so bad it was renamed.

> From an extremely valuable list of verified users Was it extremely valuable? I know a lot of people (myself included) viewed blue checkmarks as a "company PR account/mass-media journalist/celebrity account maintained by SMM" sign. The most interesting people I followed on Twitter were not verified.

Yes because on a Twitter style platform it is those core influencers that are important to the growth and health of the overall network. It is not the random guy with 100 followers, no qualifications, life experience or expertise.

And the point of the original verification system was to make sure you can trust what that person is saying especially in volatile situations e.g. during a crisis where Twitter's role was so influential and important.

Re: Twitter has officially changed its logo to ‘X’

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Post by audunw »

thefz wrote: post #60
sschueller wrote: post #8

This man is burning anything that had any value at Twitter. From an extremely valuable list of verified users to the name which is even used as a verb. There is absolutely no reason to rename Twitter. The name isn't even that stained compared to like Comcast or what ever the name was of that phone company in the 90s that sucked so bad it was renamed.

It is wrong to conflate economic success with intelligence.

Or to think intelligence in one domain transfers to another. There’s a long history of Nobel prize winners having stupid ideas outside the domain where they did the work for which they’re celebrated.

It’s silly to think that Elon isnt incredibly talented and smart in some ways. That doesn’t mean he’s universally talented and smart.

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