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Post by LinXitoW »

drooby wrote: post #30

I always love getting my tarot cards read. Do I believe it has special knowledge of the universe? Absolutely not. Does it get my thinking creatively and critically about the personal story that I have with my self? Yes. And that has some value.

I have Tarot cards exactly for this reason. It's also just a fun party game.

But of all the esoteric things, astrology seems the most boring to me, because it's static and determined just once when you're born. It feels like there's just no interaction involved.

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Post by pyinstallwoes »

akomtu wrote: post #38

Quote: Nahua philosophers saw humans as creatures yearning for rootedness — i.e. for a deep, firm, and lasting anchoring for their lives — and who restlessly search for it. Obtaining well-rootedness enables one to become an “upright man” (tlacamelahuac, trans. by Lopez Austin 1988:I,p.189) and to live a balanced, pure, and genuinely human life. Without roots, one finds neither balance, purity, nor humanness. Obtainin…

Arguably the result of nihilism...

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Post by heywhatupboys »

joshstrange wrote: post #264

At this point I assume all articles saying “young people are doing X” to be total bollocks. Like the articles we’ve seen here about paper maps making a comeback for young people (a small handful of people were using them as art) or the “young people trading their smartphones for dumb phones” which had a tiny sample size and sounded like bullshit. Nowadays you find 1-2 tweets (or similar), call it a trend, and move on…

100 %, articles like this are the bane of the modern world.

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Post by LinXitoW »

lm28469 wrote: post #162
Jean-Papoulos wrote: post #158

It is so sad to see that despite being the most educated generation in history, there still seems to be a need for supernatural meaning in young people's lives.

Are we really surprised that after destroying religions and traditions young people look for things other than money and careers ? Almost as if consumerism was showing its limits...

That feels like a false dichotomy. You can have beliefs outside of consumerism without resorting to religions or traditions.

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Post by pyinstallwoes »

permo-w wrote: post #14

I think the easy way to look at this is that a certain segment of society will always want to believe in something beyond the observable world with the decline of organised religion amongst Western Europeans, astrology is one way they fill that void if astrology doesn't float your boat, there's always witchcraft and tarot, or crystals and alternative medicine. or if you're less inclined towards new-age horse you can…

"I think the easy way to look at this is that a certain segment of society will always want to believe in something beyond the observable world"

So nearly every scientist that is known for introducing a paradigm shift in history?

Most often these scientists or inventors do not have something in the observable world, they rely on their imagination and spark of intuition to craft their way towards a representation in the observable world.

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Post by achenet »

ZephyrBlu wrote: post #200
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #171

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I worked in various "alternative" industries in my youth. One day I was having an informal diner with people that, in another context, could have been business partners. One guy was making a killing with an astrology service by phone. He started with those text message based games, that were popular in the 2000'. Remember? "Send 'love' to this number to know if he loves you". And eventually created a full phone call…

I always wonder what the morals and ethics of these kind of business owners is. You're selling a service you know is bullshit and liken to porn. Personally I would not be proud to say I run that business. I would rather that these businesses didn't exist, and so I don't want to contribute to perpetuating them. Of course there's the "fulfilling the market need" type of answer, but that's basically saying you will do a…

> I always wonder what the morals and ethics of these kind of business owners is.

> you will do anything for money regardless of morals and ethics.

I think you may have answered your own question.

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Post by thatguymike »

ilyt wrote: post #297
rmbyrro wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dislike Apple as well, but judging people just because they work with their software stack is... inappropriate? May I ask how you make a living in modern society? Lots of people contribute to walled gardens to produce the food you eat. Heck, the constructor of your roof literally contributed to your walled garden... I don't think anyone has a choice, unless you go back 10,000 years and live like a hunter gatherer..…

> Lots of people contribute to walled gardens to produce the food you eat. Heck, the constructor of your roof literally contributed to your walled garden... I don't think you know what walled garden means in software context.

I don’t think you know what a metaphor means in a conversational context.

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Post by jeffhuys »

drooby wrote: post #30

I always love getting my tarot cards read. Do I believe it has special knowledge of the universe? Absolutely not. Does it get my thinking creatively and critically about the personal story that I have with my self? Yes. And that has some value.

Exactly. It's just a tool to visualize your own intuition. I have my own set of cards. I lay them, and see what I see. And of course, it's just me making up a story, but it has significance to me, and helps me in understanding myself better.

It's not hard to understand, yet, people find it "weird". I guess it ties in with the still-prevalent thought that mental wellbeing is something you don't really talk about. It's shameful to some people to say you're depressed, or seeing a psychologist.

Tarot AND psychologists have helped me tremendously in my depression. Tarot in particular has helped me far more than any psychologist could, just because it makes me understand where I am, what I'm stuck thinking about, and how to move forward.

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Post by defrost »

pyinstallwoes wrote: post #296
nprateem wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there are such markers, the flaw in astrology is not taking into account the hemisphere. Someone born in July would be born in summer in the northern hemisphere but winter in the south, so they can't possibly have been exposed to the same environmental factors growing up.

But they're exposed to the alignment of the celestial spheres in relation to the Earth the same way. Imagine if the celestial spheres have a particular electromagnetic relationship with the Earth, this dynamic nature is a type of 'song' if you will. That song becomes imprinted. That's one way I've come to understand these views. Then you actually have some semi-modern approaches to the music of the celestial spheres…

> Imagine if the celestial spheres have a particular electromagnetic relationship with the Earth

The kind that falls away with square of the distance, where Saturn is far enough away that light takes > hour to travel?

This is very much a [ ... ] and so astrology argument.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98Ya3F6jVFM

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