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Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> continual access to every major vpn provider increases the probability of getting caught Could you point out one example where CIA/NSA faced any real consequences after being caught doing something shady?

Can you please provide examples where they maintained continual access via hacking legal operations instead of serving entities with paperwork?

The Snowden leaks?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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This sounds far more like a roommate situation than a semi-nuclear family. Still applies, albeit less so. Not like looks are real evidence, but it points them the right direction.

> This sounds far more like a roommate situation than a semi-nuclear family. Think again. If there's someone in the house who downloads CP, do you think that person's kids don't know who it would be?

I struggle to imagine the cops bringing a family together in a living room to accuse them collectively of downloading CP. Any halfway competent parent is going to utter the words "I want a lawyer and you do not have permission to talk to my children" way before the cops sit anyone down.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Competent corrupt officials can do the math, and understand ongoing 1X bribes are far better than poisoning their money tree by stupidly accepting a one-time 10X bribe.

Sure, but if there's enforcement officials that will take a periodic 1X bribe to protect illegal activity, there's likely someone else in society (possibly, other enforcement officials taking a bribe, or possibly other groups that have simply bribed the right people to protect their own activities) that will take a 10X payment to suppress that activity from some party with conflicting interests, perhaps by means such…

In countries with systemic corruption, those people collecting periodic 1X bribes share a significant part of them with their superiors, who share it with their superiors etc all the way to the top. There may not be unity of government or any formal organization, but the cliques are very strong, and they do form along institutional lines. This isn't to say that there is no bribe large enough to break the system, but 10x is way too low for most bureaucrats to risk their neck trying to do so.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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How do you know what was uploaded, let alone that those were the only things uploaded? If I remember Freenet’s model correctly, files were distributed across the network as encrypted fragments and no one knew what exactly was being shared on his own node.

Run a DC++ client connected to some major hubs and snoop on the queries that people search for and you will lose all hope for humanity.

Even without the CP. Three decades ago, on the campus network when I was studying for my undergraduate degree, I fired up etherman (or something like it, it's been a loooong time). It helpfully parsed out the HTTP URLs for me, and I clicked on a few out of curiousity.

I turned that sniffer off soon after, and never ever looked again. Even the (likely) legal things people were looking for were hard to unsee.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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It's not equivocation, it's a categorization of heteronormative and not-heteronormative. Personally I suspect the issue here is that incest is the only form of sexual activity that we have a natural proclivity against, probably because of evolutionary pressure (as in, hard-wired into our DNA) against fucking blood relatives. Because a consistently-inbred population will breed itself into oblivion. People who fuck kid…

I think your starting point is still kinda skewed, because "heteronormative" is a made-up thing by society rather than an actual thing someone can be. There's a traditional view of sexuality that men are only sexually attracted to women, and vice versa, and that's normal and everything else is not normal (kinky). The more we learn about sex (and gender) the more we learn that there are very few completely "normal" pe…

> I think your starting point is still kinda skewed, because "heteronormative" is a made-up thing by society rather than an actual thing someone can be.

It's a term rooted in the conditions that make sex a reproductive act and not just something that feels good

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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I stopped running a Tor non-exit node from home a few years back, because a lot of websites and platforms blacklist any IP associated with Tor. I couldn't actually watch anything on Hulu for years (though they were still happy to take my money, which I refused to give them) because of this. Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore.

> Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore. It's hard to determine tor's net-value to society, since it's such a double bladed sword. I'm not sure it's something deserving of thanks.

> I'm not sure it's something deserving of thanks.

Why?

Why do people give thanks to their soldiers, who go kill people in other countries?

Or to cops, who kill people in their own country?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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This is the point where you need to check your privilege. I used tor when living in a dictatorship to find out things which would destroy the moral fabric of society, such as information about lgbtqia+ issues, what condoms are, pop music and news that the government didn't want to spread.

Would a VPN not have sufficed as well? Tor seems like overkill for what you're describing.

How does one pay a VPN when your country is under sanctions?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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post #298

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This is the point where you need to check your privilege. I used tor when living in a dictatorship to find out things which would destroy the moral fabric of society, such as information about lgbtqia+ issues, what condoms are, pop music and news that the government didn't want to spread.

I'm sorry you had to live through that, and I'm glad you had tools to subvert that oppression. I'm relieved that it sounds like you've escaped from that situation. It was not my intent to assert any privilege, and it was my intent to acknowledge that scenario. If I may provide some clarification: Marriam webster[0] defines 'double edged sword' to mean > something that has or can have both favorable and unfavorable co…

> The other side of the blade however, it's also used to facilitate terrible acts of abuse, notably to children

How do we know you are not hosting CP?

Seems like the only way to really be sure is to make random raids on everyone and confiscate their equipment for a while.

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