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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by tguvot »

vel0city wrote: post #430
tguvot wrote: post #377

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> Modern route planning takes into account inherently real-time information such as accidents and other roadblocks, which is only available online. in mid 2000s very offline igo could pull traffic information via RDS-TMC and adjust route according to it. navigation systems in modern cars can use traffic information from satellite via sirius-xm

Yeah, I'm disappointed more cars/GPS units don't have this functionality. It's really not even that complicated of a data stream and it's already right there in most US metro areas waiting to be used.

i think the only time recently that i saw TMC used, it's in my wife's mini countryman. but it worked only in last few months of leasing after they updated firmware or maybe plugged some cable during service

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by dudeinjapan »

jrflowers wrote: post #183
dudeinjapan wrote: post #153

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Can you elaborate on how you know that the human trafficking charges are bogus?

According to NYT (https://archive.md/4tSmc) the key details of the charges are kept confidential by the prosecutors. Media has implied that Tate running a webcam business is ipso-facto illegal, but it is not--roughly 400,000 women and 5,000 companies do webcams in Romania.

In various recent interviews (Tucker Carlson, Patrick Bet David, both on YouTube), Tate has claimed he is not charged with any sex/violent crimes including rape (contrary to NYT and other reports) nor is he charged with anything in connection to his webcam studio. Tate claims the only charges against him are seducing women (so-called "Loverboy method" of trafficking) to make Tiktok videos for which he did not receive financial compensation. If this is true, I would file it under the "bogus"/"arbitrary" category. (And without victim blaming, I would also observe that any woman who believes Tate's promise of a serious relationship has clearly not done her research.)

Again because the full details of the charges are kept confidential ("Kafka-esque") none of us know, but I would think that Tate (with nudging from his lawyers) would be smart enough not to misrepresent the charges against him in interviews. He will have his day in court, and we will see then.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Arn_Thor »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

I haven't run across any Cyberpunk fiction that didn't feature exploitation of other people with the aid of technology. That depressing aspect of it is sort of backed in. If it's utopian, it's not cyberpunk, almost by definition.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by erik_seaberg »

pessimizer wrote: post #268
charlieyu1 wrote: post #162

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Do jurisdictions really care about child porn before internet? I always feel like it is just a convenient excuse for them to get away with their bullshit, for a largely non-existent problem.

No, they didn't. They still don't. Not having a victim on the other side of the case (possession of child porn, not production of child porn) gives judges an easy excuse (and no opposition) to sympathizing with the accused and suspending the sentence. Child porn is just leverage to pry. We used to care as much about sending information about birth control through the mail. And with the modern movement to sexualize ch…

These tactics have been called the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocalyp....

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by barrysteve »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #431
barrysteve wrote: post #339

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He condemned accurately. The soviet system sounds pointlessly overloaded with middle men. Why not abandon the "official system with middle men bribes" and descend all the way into mafia families and protection rackets? No matter the empathy I have for the suffering. What is the point of offering a bribe, to bully the system, in the same way the receiver intends to break the rules? Just tell the truth and say the syst…

> What is the point of offering a bribe, to bully the system Imagine your grandma needs urgent surgery and it is customary to give the doctor some money to 'ensure best results'. Will you refuse? > descend all the way into mafia families and protection rackets? You mean like some monopolized industries in the US have done? > then you have to bribe, like the Soviets did. Why Soviets, Bribing is the default way of soci…

It is not a binary choice. My grandma can get the care via a bribe and the next day I can go join the local mafia.

Not like a US corporation, the machine of machines, systems of systems. An actual mafia that breaks down the government and replaces official services with a protection racket around people's families and uses physical violence to enforce arbitrary mafia business norms.

The real criminal mafia does not answer to a doctor who takes the wrong bribes and that doctor may go home that evening to find his house/family/prized thing to be in jeopardy. The mafia built on family and religious connections that can't be bought out, and will balance out a non-working government when it fails.

The Soviet system props up the normal structure just enough to leech off it. That is a luxury of Russian culture that doesn't survive elsewhere, for very good reason.

Suffering isn't an excuse for corruption that hurts basic services for the middle/lower class.

Lie, bribe, cheat and steal for all the yacht money and control over steel mills, between upper class toffs, I don't care.

When your corruption stops society from working for the majority, or oppresses the majority, then you have become the problem.

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Post by dudeinjapan »

Eisenstein wrote: post #172
dudeinjapan wrote: post #153

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> The supposed human trafficking charges against him appear to be completely bogus and Kafka-esque, and therefore violate his rights against arbitrary arrest and detention. I don't know enough details on the 'kafka-esque' nature of the charges, so I won't comment on them, but he has more than one credible rape accusations him against in his home country, and he talks openly about using women as sex workers and taking…

According to NYT (https://archive.md/4tSmc) prosecutors haven't made the key details of the charges public, and the media reports sharply contradict Tate's own characterization of the charges in recent interviews. This is roughly the premise of Kafka's "The Trial".

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by djtango »

foobiekr wrote: post #200
sillysaurusx wrote: post #195

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Which vpn was no-log-but-logging? I was shopping around for an alternative after mullvad blocked port forwarding, but it seems like no one else is as trustworthy. Not that I need it for my “attempt to port forward smash ultimate from within crummy hospital internet” purposes, but hey, principle of the thing and all that.

All of them.

I figured the Mozilla VPN might be safe...?

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by marcus_holmes »

pdntspa wrote: post #409
jrflowers wrote: post #327

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I’m no expert here but I’m going to guess that equivocating gay people and pedophiles is not the best starting point to understanding pedophiles.

It's not equivocation, it's a categorization of heteronormative and not-heteronormative. Personally I suspect the issue here is that incest is the only form of sexual activity that we have a natural proclivity against, probably because of evolutionary pressure (as in, hard-wired into our DNA) against fucking blood relatives. Because a consistently-inbred population will breed itself into oblivion. People who fuck kid…

I think your starting point is still kinda skewed, because "heteronormative" is a made-up thing by society rather than an actual thing someone can be.

There's a traditional view of sexuality that men are only sexually attracted to women, and vice versa, and that's normal and everything else is not normal (kinky). The more we learn about sex (and gender) the more we learn that there are very few completely "normal" people out there, and a lot of people who are a bit kinky in one respect or another. I think it's now accepted that the hetero-homo thing is a spectrum rather than a binary state, and the primary reason people of the same sex don't have sex with each other is societal pressure rather than biological attraction. e.g. women tend to experiment more with this because society has a more lenient view of "girl-on-girl" than male homosexual sex.

My personal opinion is that evolution "wants" everything to fuck everything as much as possible, just to see what happens. The best reproducers are the ones who did the most fucking, after all. But we're getting into Oglaf territory here.

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Post by snypher »

fomine3 wrote: post #402
chollida1 wrote: post #315

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> Looking at the scale of NordVPN they either already have a liason with aurhorities inside, or are hacked by authorities. Based on what? You just seem to be making a wild unsubstantiated conjecture here.

It's a wild take but the US did the wild operation for big techs (Prism)

Room 641A

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

No door handle!

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by dlivingston »

Sterm wrote: post #298
chrsig wrote: post #61

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> Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore. It's hard to determine tor's net-value to society, since it's such a double bladed sword. I'm not sure it's something deserving of thanks.

This is the point where you need to check your privilege. I used tor when living in a dictatorship to find out things which would destroy the moral fabric of society, such as information about lgbtqia+ issues, what condoms are, pop music and news that the government didn't want to spread.

Would a VPN not have sufficed as well? Tor seems like overkill for what you're describing.
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