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Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by motohagiography » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 2:01 AM UTC

peterleiser wrote: post #9

motohagiography wrote: post #3

I'd wonder whether an LLM could make a coherent translation engine. It's like cognoscenti of the cthulic void rhyming slang.

I gave chatGPT4 the "common traits of Death Metal English" and then asked it to translate "Commuting to work" into death metal English. The response: In the parlance of Death Metal English, "Commuting to work" might be translated as "Transversing the Dreaded Pathway to the Monolith of Enslavement." That's pretty metal...

That's pretty fascinating, as there are values inherent in the language, where a death metal flavoured AI might create different associations and have a different logic - and then reify it. Whoops. Awesome.

Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by nonethewiser » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 2:02 AM UTC

motohagiography wrote: post #3

I'd wonder whether an LLM could make a coherent translation engine. It's like cognoscenti of the cthulic void rhyming slang.

I did this on ChatGPT then found your comment.

prompt: translate: "I love football. Go bears!"

response: I EMBRACE THE GRIDIRON'S FURY. GO FORTH, O BEARS!

Side note - I told chatgpt I wanted it to serve as a Death Metal English translator and that I would share the article for more details then make translation requests in follow up prompts. It responded by translating the article. It did a good job of translating after that but I wasnt sure if there was a better way for me to prompt it.

Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by peterleiser » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 2:19 AM UTC

nonethewiser wrote: post #12

motohagiography wrote: post #3

I'd wonder whether an LLM could make a coherent translation engine. It's like cognoscenti of the cthulic void rhyming slang.

I did this on ChatGPT then found your comment. prompt: translate: "I love football. Go bears!" response: I EMBRACE THE GRIDIRON'S FURY. GO FORTH, O BEARS! Side note - I told chatgpt I wanted it to serve as a Death Metal English translator and that I would share the article for more details then make translation requests in follow up prompts. It responded by translating the article. It did a good job of translating af…

For that phrase chatgpt4 offered me:

In Death Metal English, "I love football. Go bears!" could be translated as "I am enthralled by the Battle of the Spherical Beast. Ascend, Ominous Ursine Legion!"

Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 2:25 AM UTC

nonethewiser wrote: post #12

motohagiography wrote: post #3

I'd wonder whether an LLM could make a coherent translation engine. It's like cognoscenti of the cthulic void rhyming slang.

I did this on ChatGPT then found your comment. prompt: translate: "I love football. Go bears!" response: I EMBRACE THE GRIDIRON'S FURY. GO FORTH, O BEARS! Side note - I told chatgpt I wanted it to serve as a Death Metal English translator and that I would share the article for more details then make translation requests in follow up prompts. It responded by translating the article. It did a good job of translating af…

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Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by rgrieselhuber » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 2:25 AM UTC

bigger_cheese wrote: post #10

I always enjoyed Bolt Thrower's brand of Death Metal English - they had a kind of brutal minimalism to their lyrics. "Spent Rounds, The Coffin Nails, On Your Empires Fall"

Bolt Thrower never gets old.

Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by davexunit » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 2:37 AM UTC

voz_ wrote: post #5

Nice to see “Chuck Schuldiner of Death” referenced. An insanely talented musician, gone way too soon. Even if you don’t like death metal, give this band a listen if only for the skill alone.

For me, Death's Human is unmatched and I don't think you'd have to already be a death metal fan to like it.

Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by noduerme » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 2:44 AM UTC

Definitely a more specific patois than exists in most subgenres of music, but far from the only one. Country and R&B both have a ridiculous set of lyrical tropes. Goths have been stuck in the same limited vocab since the 80s. The coolest thing you can say about DM is it's still fairly niche.

Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by m0llusk » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 3:15 AM UTC

INSECTS ENCIRCLE ME, INFEST MY SOUL

Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by m0llusk » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 3:18 AM UTC

bigger_cheese wrote: post #10

I always enjoyed Bolt Thrower's brand of Death Metal English - they had a kind of brutal minimalism to their lyrics. "Spent Rounds, The Coffin Nails, On Your Empires Fall"

Suspect hostile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS3502yEvcU

Re: Death Metal English (2013)

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Post by sickcodebruh » Mon, Jul 24, 2023, 3:56 AM UTC

This article was written by my good friend, bandmate, and former co-worker Doug Moore!

Doug is best known as the vocalist for extreme death metal noise maniacs Pyrrhon. https://pyrrhonband.bandcamp.com/album/abscess-time

He is also the vocalist for the death metal band Glorious Depravity, in which I drum. This makes best use of his DME skills. https://gloriousdepravity.bandcamp.com/album/ageless-violenc.... Look at the lyrics to “Ocean of Scabs” to see a master at work.

He’s also the vocalist of the experimental black metal band Scarcity. https://scarcity-nyc.bandcamp.com/album/aveilut

And let’s not forget his epic death/doom project Weeping Sores. He writes all the songs (everything except violin) and handles guitar, bass, and vocals on the recording. I had the pleasure of mixing this one. https://weepingsores.bandcamp.com/album/weeping-sores

Finally, the HM crowd will appreciate that he — like everyone else in Glorious Depravity — is a software engineer. He works for the fitness tech startup Proteus Motion, https://www.proteusmotion.com. I worked there with him for many years. He’s a very smart, talented person and I feel fortunate to be his friend and collaborator.