All foster kids in California can now attend any state college for free

Post by PierceJoy » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 11:53 PM UTC

lockhouse wrote: post #190

PierceJoy wrote: post #75

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True, but many forms of discrimination are legal and good. Minimum age to drive is ageism, but I think we would all agree that it’s a good form of discrimination. You say “no matter how well intentioned” as if the intention isn’t important. But intention and outcome are both very important and determine whether a given form of discrimination is good or bad.

Harvard and other Ivy League universities got caught discriminating against Asians in their admissions. How do you justify that as a good thing?

Post by bushbaba » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 11:54 PM UTC

KRAKRISMOTT wrote: post #185

bushbaba wrote: post #40

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Generally state colleges will take any applicant who meets the pre-set bar. Where as tier 1 universities are more a zero sum game.

University of California, Washington, and Texas are hardly uncompetitive. Their admission rates are very low for the good programs.

Post by macintux » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 11:55 PM UTC

nomat wrote: post #165

slashdev wrote: post #123

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Do reparations for slavery even make logical sense? Please cut me some slack here, by the nature of the world we live in, I have not uttered these thoughts to another human being, and they might have obvious flaws. It's tough when you can't talk about ideas out of fear of the consequences. I think nobody argues that it's a vile, morally repugnant thing to enslave another human being. But that was a long time ago, and…

I think the numbers tell a convincing story. The median net worth of Americans in 2019 was $121,760. In 2019, the median net worth of white Americans was $189,100. The median net worth of Black Americans was $24,100 I forget how to link on hn but it's from the motley fool.

Post by slashdev » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 11:56 PM UTC

nomat wrote: post #165

slashdev wrote: post #123

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Do reparations for slavery even make logical sense? Please cut me some slack here, by the nature of the world we live in, I have not uttered these thoughts to another human being, and they might have obvious flaws. It's tough when you can't talk about ideas out of fear of the consequences. I think nobody argues that it's a vile, morally repugnant thing to enslave another human being. But that was a long time ago, and…

I think the numbers tell a convincing story. The median net worth of Americans in 2019 was $121,760. In 2019, the median net worth of white Americans was $189,100. The median net worth of Black Americans was $24,100 I forget how to link on hn but it's from the motley fool.

Post by troupe » Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 11:57 PM UTC

axlee wrote: post #96

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In the United States, a lot of times the individual situation is correlated to their skin color. The condition of being descendants of slaves, or people who faced other forms of official discrimination cited in the prevention of intergenerational wealth such as redlining, blockbusting or unfavorable treatment in the GI bill, etc., is ultimately an individual situation for each individual affected. The idea that you c…

How many slaves in the family tree should someone have to qualify? Do white slaves count? How far back should we go? Would citizens whose families have immigrated to this country after the deed be also on the hook for reparations? Should reparations only be given to struggling people, or should they be given out regardless of the situation of the descendant of a slave? It's a lot easier to quantify and equalize the s…