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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by toby- »

insickness wrote: post #287
linsomniac wrote: post #112

My BIL used to work CP with the DHS, a tech going in heavy with the first wave to secure devices. I asked him if he had ever run into Tor exits, he said no, but they did sometimes run into people with unsecured wireless that had been used by third parties and once it was clear that was what happened it was pretty much dropped. I'm sure they would have ways to deal with people leaving their WiFi open as a way of camou…

>everyone would turn and look at one person So the person everyone thinks would do it is pronounced guilty. I don't see any way that could go horribly wrong.

It at least gives you an idea of where might be fruitful to begin your investigation...

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by linsomniac »

insickness wrote: post #287
linsomniac wrote: post #112

My BIL used to work CP with the DHS, a tech going in heavy with the first wave to secure devices. I asked him if he had ever run into Tor exits, he said no, but they did sometimes run into people with unsecured wireless that had been used by third parties and once it was clear that was what happened it was pretty much dropped. I'm sure they would have ways to deal with people leaving their WiFi open as a way of camou…

>everyone would turn and look at one person So the person everyone thinks would do it is pronounced guilty. I don't see any way that could go horribly wrong.

That's likely the starting place for the investigation, not the end.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by rolph »

mptest wrote: post #251
delecti wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A former coworker started a startup, and very nearly used it in the name until he was informed of how the UK views the word.

How did nonce get that meaning in the uk? I've always known nonce to be a single use number

something like:

Not Observing Normal Community Exercise

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by UnixSchizoid »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #277
sillysaurusx wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which vpn was no-log-but-logging? I was shopping around for an alternative after mullvad blocked port forwarding, but it seems like no one else is as trustworthy. Not that I need it for my “attempt to port forward smash ultimate from within crummy hospital internet” purposes, but hey, principle of the thing and all that.

buy a cheap vps server with btc and setup your own vpn

Or you could use a cloud providers free tier, but then you have to give up your credit card info and name for “verification”

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by nobody9999 »

pessimizer wrote: post #261
sillysaurusx wrote: post #34

The eternal struggle. Information wants to be free, and then people use those freedoms to do the most screwed up things imaginable, and people like this pay the price. It’s a damn shame how the original cyberpunk dream played out. We could’ve had a world where companies couldn’t do anything about people using their ideas. Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators…

> Instead we get one where you can’t even be anonymous without rubbing elbows with child predators. There have been secretive child predators ever since statutory rape was invented. The reason that you didn't have to "rub elbows" with them is because our governments hadn't begun systematically closing off all avenues for anonymity other than the one that they built and maintain for their own spying. If there's only o…

>Speaking of "maps at our fingertips," good luck finding one that doesn't result in a record of the lookup and any GPS data submitted with it being inserted into a half-dozen databases, all freely accessible by the government, or by anybody buying in bulk.

Et voila! Maps at your fingertips[0] with no logging/tracking. It's amazing what those ancient (ca. 1995) humans could do. Perhaps they had help from aliens -- as we couldn't possibly do any of that stuff by ourselves. /s

[0] https://wwp.randmcnally.com/product/rand-mcnally-road-atlas

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by MayeulC »

orangepurple wrote: post #230
OfSanguineFire wrote: post #184

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How do you know what was uploaded, let alone that those were the only things uploaded? If I remember Freenet’s model correctly, files were distributed across the network as encrypted fragments and no one knew what exactly was being shared on his own node.

Run a DC++ client connected to some major hubs and snoop on the queries that people search for and you will lose all hope for humanity.

I'm just wondering if some of this could be automated scans (possibly by law enforcement?)

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by jokethrowaway »

Eisenstein wrote: post #172
dudeinjapan wrote: post #153

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> The supposed human trafficking charges against him appear to be completely bogus and Kafka-esque, and therefore violate his rights against arbitrary arrest and detention. I don't know enough details on the 'kafka-esque' nature of the charges, so I won't comment on them, but he has more than one credible rape accusations him against in his home country, and he talks openly about using women as sex workers and taking…

It's hard to judge what is true or not, especially if it's about a public figure and especially when said public figure seems to be making the most idiotic choices ever.

There are plenty of women pretending to be cool, even doing rape role play and then using recorder material to blackmail men. He was obviously into BDSM stuff (he was being grilled for a video in which he was hitting a woman with a belt - the woman went on video to record it was consensual), so it would be incredibly easy to trap and blackmail.

Similar situation with human trafficking: the girls were always free to leave but they were getting paid for sex work. He was for sure a digital pimp (not sure if that's a crime).

Overall, I don't think Tate is an actual abuser: it would be incredibly stupid to go public with such a past; I'd bet he is just a self centered narcissist who likes to get into risky and dumb situations and thinks nothing bad will happen to him because he's God.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Sterm »

chrsig wrote: post #61
jaylittle wrote: post #11

I stopped running a Tor non-exit node from home a few years back, because a lot of websites and platforms blacklist any IP associated with Tor. I couldn't actually watch anything on Hulu for years (though they were still happy to take my money, which I refused to give them) because of this. Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore.

> Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore. It's hard to determine tor's net-value to society, since it's such a double bladed sword. I'm not sure it's something deserving of thanks.

This is the point where you need to check your privilege. I used tor when living in a dictatorship to find out things which would destroy the moral fabric of society, such as information about lgbtqia+ issues, what condoms are, pop music and news that the government didn't want to spread.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by brightlancer »

EGreg wrote: post #165
tekla wrote: post #148

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CP is disgusting and everything, but I'm kinda weirded out about thought crime. If no harm is being done, not even indirectly to anyone else, why is it a crime? It's not illegal to write a fanfic that you keep to yourself about all the weird ways that you want to torture and kill someone.

Well, if actual harm to people and children is what we want to reduce, then perhaps decriminalizing an innocuous (as in no victims) form of it may actually reduce the harm to actual people. Just like the cases for decriminalizing prostitution and drugs: https://time.com/longform/portugal-drug-use-decriminalizatio... And btw -- it's not just about thoughtcrime, it's a major double standard, seems to me. In the West it…

Legalized drug sales and prostitution among adults have _fewer_ victims but that doesn't mean no victims. Legalization is better but it isn't a panacea.

> Such as the movie "Hostel". I never understood why that is OK, why the music industry has pushed gangsta rap etc. for decades, but then something like Cuties out of France which actually critiques the hypersexualization of teenage girls that is taking place, causes an uproar, while the industries doing the hypersexualization are now an accepted part of our liberal "freedom of speech".

AFAIK, everyone involved in the production of "Hostel" was a legal adult.

The girls who were the main characters in "Cuties" were not legal adults, nor anywhere close. I don't even think they were teenagers. From the clip I saw, it wasn't a _critique_ of hypersexualization so much as LITERAL HYPERSEXUALIZATION. There may have been an ironic plot around it saying "this is bad mmm'kay" but that doesn't excuse using children to engage in sexualized behavior.

There's an important conversation to be had about US culture and violence versus sex and language (South Park parodied this well), but "Cuties" is a horrible example because it used actual children to engage in actual sexual objectification.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Post by Eisenstein »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #297
Eisenstein wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The supposed human trafficking charges against him appear to be completely bogus and Kafka-esque, and therefore violate his rights against arbitrary arrest and detention. I don't know enough details on the 'kafka-esque' nature of the charges, so I won't comment on them, but he has more than one credible rape accusations him against in his home country, and he talks openly about using women as sex workers and taking…

It's hard to judge what is true or not, especially if it's about a public figure and especially when said public figure seems to be making the most idiotic choices ever. There are plenty of women pretending to be cool, even doing rape role play and then using recorder material to blackmail men. He was obviously into BDSM stuff (he was being grilled for a video in which he was hitting a woman with a belt - the woman w…

> it would be incredibly stupid

> I'd bet he is just a self centered narcissist

These two things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, one would think that a narcissist who has gotten away with it all his life would think he was invulnerable. It certainly tracks that he would be open about it.

And really, if it walks like a rapist, and it talks like a rapist, and it acts like a rapist... it is probably a rapist.

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