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Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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It's perfectly rational if nobody cares about the laws being broken there, and they will have no repurcursion for admitting to it.

Not at all. Admiting it publicly has all kind of repercussions internationaly even if there are none locally.

They cannot be arrested in Croatia or anywhere else for breaking laws in Kosovo.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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So he as guns in his bedroom and 3 more guns in his safe along with a machete (all apparently legal). Not in Mollenbeek or northeastern Paris, but near Graz.

Just your typical guy then.

Running TOR exits are a noble thing to do but people like this damage TOR's reputation.

And while there doesn't seem to be proof he intentionally got involved in CP, a smart pedophile probably would set up an exit node just for plausible deniability.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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That's not how Tor works, you don't need to run a tor exit to use it. If you were actually doing something nefarious and using tor for anonymity, running an exit from the same ip doesn't sound extremely smart.

You're misunderstanding the comment you're replying to. They're not saying you need an exit node to do bad stuff over Tor, they're saying that anybody with the technical ability and knowledge to run a tor exit mode would also choose to use Tor for any bad stuff, and that therefore it seems unlikely anyone who runs a tor exit node would also do bad stuff directly traceable to their own IP.

You're right, it took me a while but I see it now. The phrasing is confusing

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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I stopped running a Tor non-exit node from home a few years back, because a lot of websites and platforms blacklist any IP associated with Tor. I couldn't actually watch anything on Hulu for years (though they were still happy to take my money, which I refused to give them) because of this. Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore.

> Running a tor node is a thankless thing one can choose to do. Nevertheless I did for years. I don't do it anymore. It's hard to determine tor's net-value to society, since it's such a double bladed sword. I'm not sure it's something deserving of thanks.

I'm a Tor user. It's also hard to determine because so much of the web is read-only or downright inaccessible via Tor.

Most big sites use a chain of reputation like this:

1. To have an account on our site, you need a reputable email. Mailinator doesn't count. 2. To get a reputable email (GMail, Outlook, etc.) you need to sacrifice a phone number to receive texts to prove you aren't a bot. 3. There are no free VoIP services. Or they're blocked.

Reddit usually lets me create accounts without email, but I'm guessing they will cut this off soon.

I'm on a friendly Mastodon instance, but I had to offer a bogus email to register, which is technically dishonesty.

YouTube sometimes works.

I had a Discord account for a while. One of my ERP partners was willing to take the hit and set up a GMail account and Discord account for me (Discord wouldn't even let me in, I had to have him create the account and then give me the password.)

But I didn't log in to Discord for a while, and recently it said "Hey check for a confirmation email". I went to log in to GMail and it said, "Hey this is suspicious, please give us a phone number."

So there's no point re-joining, if I can only talk to people and have a "free" email address for as long as I can cyber-fuck someone into letting me borrow his phone. And I won't buy a burner phone because it's likely to have the same problems, plus all the PITA of real-life opsec.

The gratis web is fading to nothing. Everyone wants something. None of it is truly free. The fediverse instances will run as long as they get donations, but charities are subject to a tragedy of the commons. They will eventually close up registrations if enough humans join for the parasite bots to follow them.

People ask me why I bother. I must admit the payoff is not big.

I bother _on principle_. Anonymity is something that I _should_ have. I don't look at CP or anything. I do this because I like to learn, I like to practice, I like to know. You may as well write it off as religion and ask a Christian why they attend church or a Jain why they don't eat onions. I simply believe it is worth doing.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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I'm trying to imagine a plausible reason to (a) run a Tor exit node, but also (b) not actually use Tor for online nefariousness, and I'm coming up blank. I don't think running a Tor node as an excuse is a real scenario. (edit: emphasis) Edit2: Jeez guys. I support Tor. I'm saying anyone who runs an exit node is also going to use Tor for anything that might get them in trouble, not do those thing in the clear and "use…

Yes because every one is living in a free country with no invasion of privacy rights and ISP to MITM every thing about you, US including btw with patriot Act.. and before you say “yeah but I am not doing anything illegal!?”, yet, laws change all the time, not to mention you don’t have to do anything illegal, you just don’t like spooks/ISP/etc. looking into your business, after all, it should be the case as a free cit…

See my edit above and my previous replies to your sibling comments.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution. What happens if someone else is willing to pay a higher bribe than you are...?

Competent corrupt officials can do the math, and understand ongoing 1X bribes are far better than poisoning their money tree by stupidly accepting a one-time 10X bribe.

I’ve seen it in the business world, but trust is everything and if you break it once even accidentally good luck. When crime enters the picture you probably won’t ever get more than a single chance, or worse, be in physical danger if you do.

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> Further, as Kosovo is an extremely corrupt country, we are able to bribe both executive and judicative as well as getting information about court orders and raids before execution. What happens if someone else is willing to pay a higher bribe than you are...?

Competent corrupt officials can do the math, and understand ongoing 1X bribes are far better than poisoning their money tree by stupidly accepting a one-time 10X bribe.

until they want to retire

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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I‘m still amazed how the security agencies pulled it off, to have the ultimate honeypot, a digitized crime scene masquerading as a market place auto-incriminating endless amounts of people. A Kompromat-Miner.

Speaking of miners, it‘s not like they are at the same risk as tor node operators. Not. At. All…

https://gizmodo.com/child-pornography-that-researchers-found...

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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its also possible to mail it to you under a "controlled delivery" investigation

I'm under the impression that mail doesn't "belong" to you until it is opened.

its not very hard to convince someone to open or sign for registered mail.

this usually last resort with hopes of eliciting self incriminatory statements.

i.e. [i didnt do the CP i was just snooping servers]

Re: Man found guilty of child porn because he ran a Tor exit node

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> he spent a lot of time downloading maps and trying to make a way to view them locally Isn't that, like, a map? lol we've had maps long before the internet

Paper gets heavy real quick and personal microfiche readers never caught on.

At least paper does not run out of battery, though
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