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US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

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Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

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The headline is a bit misleading, an electronic travel authority is not a visa and is substantially easier to obtain than an average visa.

Like many have pointed out, the US requires visitors from otherwise visa-free countries to have a travel authorization to come here.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

#32

These papers (edit: US and EU versions) weren’t needed before but are going to be needed soon. Going backwards. And no one cares.

Honest question, do you complain that USA implemented this same type program in 2008/2009? Or do you just care now because this affects US travelers?

I wasn't aware EU travellers had to get a visa to enter the US.

When I flew to the EU and eastern Europe in 2019, I didn't need a visa. I didn't need to tell anyone my exact dates and itinerary. I paid for a ticket, had a passport, and went.

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until quite recently, Ukrainian citizens had to endure the same gruelling process to be allowed into the Schengen zone. To travel to the US, a visa is still needed today. My point: Ukrainians are almost all non-brown, and it is a very destructive habit to inject the skin color into every issue.

Travel and immigration restrictions were lifted from Ukraine for getting invaded by Russia. If it wasn't for this, their EU accession process would've remained dead in the water due to severe structural and societal issues that are now being entirely overlooked. Other countries that have been way up the queue aren't getting the same preferential treatment for some reason. There's war and suffering in Ukraine. But the…

Once the war is over I’m sure they’ll suddenly start insisting previous requirements

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

#34
post #24

EU really needs to re-do the whole Schengen process for citizens of countries like India. Right now, you need to show booked tickets, hotel reservations, Insurance with very specific terms and a detailed itinerary even before you've been granted the visa. And after all that documentation nightmare, you get granted the visa for the exact specific dates you've requested. God forbid your plans change even by a day or tw…

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Actually they come to work here on contract for jobs that white people refuse to do (like in agriculture, delivery). The EU offers good working conditions. It has mostly been a positive experience and I am going to treat these people with respect. Most of them I've had the pleasure with have been nice and polite, I've seen couriers from Asia put a lot of effort into their jobs and they've also raised awareness of cyclists on public roads. Mostly due to them I no longer get honked/yelled at when riding a bike on public roads.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

#35

These papers (edit: US and EU versions) weren’t needed before but are going to be needed soon. Going backwards. And no one cares.

This has been 100% expected. It is bacause of lack of US visa waiver to certain EU members (Romania and Bulgaria for example). It's the same for Canadians who travel to the EU and who's country lifted the mentioned restrictions.

https://www.etias.ca/

As much as I like Americans, you have to understand that you were priviledged before and that this privilege has ended because of your country's visa policy treating EU citizens differently.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

#36

Meanwhile the eu is also preventing certain member states from free travel by not allowing them to join schengen. All thanks to two countries playing power, one of which being a russia appeaser. Not much news on that.

Don't beat around the bush. Who is keeping who out of schengen?

Not the OP, but the Netherlands and Austria are the keepers and Romania and Bulgaria are the keep-ies.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

#37

Meanwhile the eu is also preventing certain member states from free travel by not allowing them to join schengen. All thanks to two countries playing power, one of which being a russia appeaser. Not much news on that.

Don't beat around the bush. Who is keeping who out of schengen?

Netherlands and Austria are keeping Romania and Bulgaria out of Schengen even though Romania (at least) meets the necessary requirements to join for the last few years.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

#39
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until quite recently, Ukrainian citizens had to endure the same gruelling process to be allowed into the Schengen zone. To travel to the US, a visa is still needed today. My point: Ukrainians are almost all non-brown, and it is a very destructive habit to inject the skin color into every issue.

Travel and immigration restrictions were lifted from Ukraine for getting invaded by Russia. If it wasn't for this, their EU accession process would've remained dead in the water due to severe structural and societal issues that are now being entirely overlooked. Other countries that have been way up the queue aren't getting the same preferential treatment for some reason. There's war and suffering in Ukraine. But the…

I have to say I agree with this. Ukraine has very different values than the EU and corruption/oligarchy is still rampant.

We have to be careful which countries we let in as we have already made this mistake with Hungary. Right now there isn't even a way to kick them out again. The idealistic view that joining the EU will automatically fix their society is clearly wrong. If you see other eastern European countries like Romania where even their own president protests (in vain) on the street for their corrupt government to go it's clear to me that this process should be stricter.

But all this seems to be overlooked in favor of geopolitical concerns (giving Putin the finger and territorial expansion)

This is not about the Ukrainian people by the way. They're mostly nice except the Russian-friendly ones in the East. But it's their government and economic model. It's the same way the average Russian doesn't even like Putin but has no way to remove him.

Zelensky is a good guy but he can't fight the war and fix his country at the same time. Also we have to worry about who comes next, after all Hungary was a decent country when they joined, Orban only came later.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

#40

EU really needs to re-do the whole Schengen process for citizens of countries like India. Right now, you need to show booked tickets, hotel reservations, Insurance with very specific terms and a detailed itinerary even before you've been granted the visa. And after all that documentation nightmare, you get granted the visa for the exact specific dates you've requested. God forbid your plans change even by a day or tw…

No, we don't need to change that. You're on a tourist visa. You arrive on day X and you leave on day Y. If circumstances change due to events out of your control, then there are solutions for that.

You want better terms, improve the situation in India. Favorable terms are given to citizens of countries where they're unlikely to violate the terms of their visa, like overstaying the validity of their visa.

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