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US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

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Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

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I really hate this re-introduction of visas but under a different name. Like if you want all foreign visitors to get a visa, say it! Don't say it's visa free but also make me fill out a form to get permission to enter that may or may not be accepted.

Like, either allow visa-free travel or don't.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

#22
EU really needs to re-do the whole Schengen process for citizens of countries like India. Right now, you need to show booked tickets, hotel reservations, Insurance with very specific terms and a detailed itinerary even before you've been granted the visa. And after all that documentation nightmare, you get granted the visa for the exact specific dates you've requested. God forbid your plans change even by a day or two.

By contrast, the Travel Visa to US, while also a painful process, at least grants you multiple entry visa thats valid for 10 years.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

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The wait times for US Tourist Visas for Indians is 1-2 years right now. I have a friend who applied 3 months and her interview date is in January 2025.

I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't complain about this, but I find it funny that Americans are mad about spending the 30 minutes and $30 to fill out a form. Seems entitled.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

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EU really needs to re-do the whole Schengen process for citizens of countries like India. Right now, you need to show booked tickets, hotel reservations, Insurance with very specific terms and a detailed itinerary even before you've been granted the visa. And after all that documentation nightmare, you get granted the visa for the exact specific dates you've requested. God forbid your plans change even by a day or tw…

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Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

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The wait times for US Tourist Visas for Indians is 1-2 years right now. I have a friend who applied 3 months and her interview date is in January 2025. I mean, I'm not saying you shouldn't complain about this, but I find it funny that Americans are mad about spending the 30 minutes and $30 to fill out a form. Seems entitled.

India and the US are not roughly on par economically, standard of living wise, etc. There are lots of reasons why tighter restrictions are needed here that don't apply between the US and Europe, where it's really just political tit for tat.

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

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Europe the continent or the EU? Does this include the UK?

The EU, although the UK is looking at introducing something similar.

+ Schengen & EFTA, so includes additionally Switzerland, Iceland, Norway & co

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EU really needs to re-do the whole Schengen process for citizens of countries like India. Right now, you need to show booked tickets, hotel reservations, Insurance with very specific terms and a detailed itinerary even before you've been granted the visa. And after all that documentation nightmare, you get granted the visa for the exact specific dates you've requested. God forbid your plans change even by a day or tw…

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Until quite recently, Ukrainian citizens had to endure the same gruelling process to be allowed into the Schengen zone. To travel to the US, a visa is still needed today.

My point: Ukrainians are almost all non-brown, and it is a very destructive habit to inject the skin color into every issue.

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Until quite recently, Ukrainian citizens had to endure the same gruelling process to be allowed into the Schengen zone. To travel to the US, a visa is still needed today. My point: Ukrainians are almost all non-brown, and it is a very destructive habit to inject the skin color into every issue.

Travel and immigration restrictions were lifted from Ukraine for getting invaded by Russia. If it wasn't for this, their EU accession process would've remained dead in the water due to severe structural and societal issues that are now being entirely overlooked. Other countries that have been way up the queue aren't getting the same preferential treatment for some reason.

There's war and suffering in Ukraine. But there's even more war and more severe suffering in other parts of the world. They don't get the same "open arms" treatment though (often, it's where brown people live).

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

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After reading "Persepolis Rising" and getting a heavy dose of what propaganda and pacifying messaging from authorities, this reads like it's from that book.

Make sure to mention how easy, super not-inconvenient it is. Include some initial skeptics who now have no problem with it. Resistance is indeed futile.

(I don't think this is the height of tyranny - there are much worse everyday systems harming us. My commentary is on the government press release dressed as a news article.)

Re: US Citizens Will Need Visa to Travel to Europe in 2024

#30

I really hate this re-introduction of visas but under a different name. Like if you want all foreign visitors to get a visa, say it! Don't say it's visa free but also make me fill out a form to get permission to enter that may or may not be accepted. Like, either allow visa-free travel or don't.

We need the passport ranking sites like Henley to downrank online application into the ‘requires visa’ category
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