Study finds billions of nanoplastics released when microwaving containers

Post by TylerE » Fri, Jul 21, 2023, 4:04 PM UTC

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There are plenty of things that are perfectly safe, even beneficial, on the skin that are harmful if eaten, injected, or inhaled.

genuinely, i ask, like what? i was told by a doctor once that the general rule is to never put anything on your skin you wouldn't also eat, inject or inhale. your skin is your body's largest organ, and allows many types of molecules to pass through it in either direction. if you rub it on there, you may as well be injecting it, the effect is the same, except, in most cases, the magnitude

Post by s1artibartfast » Fri, Jul 21, 2023, 4:14 PM UTC

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Models can breakdown at huge scales because they introduce other non-representative factors or nonlinear responses. Sending an astronaut to the center of the Sun and concluding their death is from radiation would be a pretty bad model. Hitting a person with a car would be a pretty bad model for a fly landing on them. The first model is bad because the sun is doing more than just exposing them to radiation. The second…

There needs to be an understanding of the mechanism of cell death in the OP. And then the question is, under what circumstances will it occur in the human body? Is it basically impossible because the body is filtering it out? Or is there some long-term accumulation where eventually we will see some parts of the population suffering these ill effects? Unknown, but without studies like OP we aren't on the first rung of…

Post by evilduck » Fri, Jul 21, 2023, 4:21 PM UTC

peteradio wrote: post #241

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So it seems that a concentration of microplastics that's 50 million times higher than a toddler would get still leaves 20% of cells alive? To me this implies that normal exposure levels to microplastics are likely completely harmless.

Sleeping next to abandoned nuclear batteries will give you radiation burns and kill you in a few weeks to months, exposure to high radon will give you cancer in decades. Unrealistically high dosages can hint at problems that might occur at low levels.

Post by peteradio » Fri, Jul 21, 2023, 4:30 PM UTC

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Sleeping next to abandoned nuclear batteries will give you radiation burns and kill you in a few weeks to months, exposure to high radon will give you cancer in decades. Unrealistically high dosages can hint at problems that might occur at low levels.

And yet living near the Rocky Mountains with a background radiation dose 3 times higher than gulf coast states still correlates with longer than average lifespans. Extrapolation of high dose outcomes might hint at what research needs to be performed but it doesn't mean the results will follow the same path.

Post by yottron » Fri, Jul 21, 2023, 4:34 PM UTC

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I'm one of the most skeptical people when it comes to these types of claims. I think the effects are being exaggerated. However, I've recently begun to replace all plastic containers and dishware from my kitchen with stainless steel and glass. Drinks taste better in glass anyways, and steel is a good non-fragile alternative. And I cook in cast iron. It's almost impossible to avoid plastic, and I'm not religious about…

Yeah, this is one of those cases where I think it's better to take the cautious route. Now that we know we're ingesting massive amounts of plastics and it's been found in every human organ, and in blood, and in breast milk, etc I think it's probably a good idea to take what steps we can to cut down on it until things are more clear about the harms. Avoiding this exposure will be easy for me, because I was never very…