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Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Post by dang »

411111111111111 wrote: post #310
5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #40

i simply prefer not to believe anything that any government or any trillion dollar company says about encryption and privacy. Apple: > "We have never heard of PRISM", "We do not provide any government agency with direct access to our servers" https://web.archive.org/web/20130609061546/https://www.culto... ..some things are just not discussed on public forums.

Apple has perfected their virtue signaling game and all the simps love it. I don't really mind it either anymore, a lot of people have this hero worship fetish and they can't help painting everything in black and white, even though they're all just different shades of gray. Apple is definitively brighter on that scale then Google or Meta, but they're all corrupt multinational corporations that will do everything they…

Can you please not post in the flamewar style? We're trying for something else here, and you can make your substantive points without any of that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Post by starttoaster »

Doches wrote: post #3
obituary_latte wrote: post #2

Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).

In fairness, Meta has said the same thing re: WhatsApp, so while Apple deserves _some_ credit here for sticking to their principles, they're not exactly leading the pack. Which brings home the point that if _Meta_ isn't onboard with your privacy-obliterating proposal then you know you've really lost the plot...

Didn't Facebook (now Meta) buy WhatsApp, and it was originally its own thing? I guess you can say Meta kept WhatsApp operational, but I don't necessarily consider it a privacy win for Meta to just buy up some privacy-centric technologies with their billions.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Post by scarface_74 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #361
Johnny555 wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you got downvoted, it’s purposely hard to switch ecosystems, I’m in the middle of switching from android to IOS, but still have over a decade of data in gmail, google photos, and google drive. And I waited until my wife was willing/ready to switch because it’s harder to share across ecosystems. Fortunately we don’t own many apps (mostly things with external subscriptions like news, streaming media, etc)…

>Not sure why you got downvoted Fanboys don't like you pointing out the hard to swallow truth pills. They expect comments to validate their lifestyle choice, not contradict them. Any contraction is a direct offense to them. > I’m in the middle of switching from android to IOS At least for you it's easy, because all google apps exist for iOS, but switching away from iOS is absolutely impossible as there is no iCloud o…

> At least for you it's easy, because all google apps exist for iOS, but switching away from iOS is absolutely impossible as there is no iCloud

1. Download Google Drive for iOS

2. Go to the Files App

3. Select all in your iCloud Drive

4. Copy

5. Go to your Google Drive in the Files app

6. Paste

Just like you would copy files from one drive to another.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Post by dainiusse »

hospitalJail wrote: post #284
nashashmi wrote: post #185

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Actions like this is why I used to trust Google. Fighting government overreach should have been a critical part of technology and data. But it seems Google was more political in its relationships than idealistic. And now the entire sector is compromised. Apple will be one day compromised too. In some crevice of some unknown government office is a person working on a ten-year initiative to get access to inaccessible i…

They are already compromised. They give data to the US government, China, and Russia. OP is repeating marketing.

This

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Post by dmbche »

bloqs wrote: post #415
dmbche wrote: post #208

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May I ask, what compels you to use discord if it's not voluntary? It's absolutely impossible to use keybase or signal?

You clearly dont have many friends or relatives that you actually interact with

I sure wonder how anyone interacted with friends and family before discord eh?

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Post by scarface_74 »

lawn wrote: post #444
scarface_74 wrote: post #436

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean how Facebook wouldn’t “compromise” when it was outright banned?

If they would have compromised they wouldn't have been banned. So, yes?

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/042915/why-f...

China never asked them to compromise. They were banned in 2009.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Post by ralfd »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #40

i simply prefer not to believe anything that any government or any trillion dollar company says about encryption and privacy. Apple: > "We have never heard of PRISM", "We do not provide any government agency with direct access to our servers" https://web.archive.org/web/20130609061546/https://www.culto... ..some things are just not discussed on public forums.

Prism also involved an NSA program that was done without the knowledge of the tech companies. They inserted a splitter on the fiber lines leaving data centers to copy all the traffic.

Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

RektBoy wrote: post #342
mihaaly wrote: post #123

I wonder why the UK legislators not preparing a new regulation mandating every keys to every door and safe having a bypass mechanism for government officials. Behind every door and every locked place there could be child pornography and illicit materials hidden!! Every house, every hotel safe are suspects! Criminal oversight, criminal oversight! (and if they think their reasoning for backdoors into online chat and co…

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>any violence against attacker with a weapon...

Is that yourself with a weapon, or the attacker?

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