I'm curious if Apple is complying with Chinese censorship with iMessage. As far as I know, at least it was usable in China without VPN in 2015.
Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
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Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
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>Make no mistake: if Apple needed to get someone killed, they would. Ok, I'll play along. Suppose Tim Cook wakes up tomorrow and decides for some reason he wants me dead. How exactly does he do it?
You lack creativity. You have multiple billions available for that. Where do you want your remains to disappear ? Hell, even sharks with lasers isn't far fetched with that amount of money. But all playfulness aside: * Pay professional hitmen. * Pay a hobo enough to go beat you up in your home. * Pay enough people enough money to kill you pretty much anywhere. What are they going to do, plead in front of a judge that…
> * Pay professional hitmen
You mean, pay an undercover cop who is advertising himself as a professional hitman?
> * Pay a hobo enough to go beat you up in your home.
He'll pay the hobo, and hobo will run off with the money
> all they saw was a subordinate of a subordinate of a subordinate
This is even more crazy than the earlier suggestions. You think there is going to be a chain of subordinates at apple who will all go along with a murder conspiracy? Try arranging a surprise party with five people, see how well people can keep a secret.
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#333Privacy is a fundamental human right!
Not in a society.
See article 8, European Convention on Human Rights, is literally about privacy. UK is a signatory last I checked
(Russia was finally kicked out after continuing what they started in 2014, but their pledge was a joke anyway, or wishful thinking at best).
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#334Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
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It’s really astonishing that Joe Biden seems to be generally to the left of the Labour party leadership. By USA standards Biden is a centrist moderate. We had the good sense to eject the Mark Penn “must go right-wing” types from mainstream Democratic circles; why didn’t Labour follow this path too?
We have recently seen what happens when somebody even slightly left of centre gets anywhere near power in the UK. Our major parties are now squashed into the spectrum between the mean US Democrat and the mean US Republican, it's quite depressing.
Are you referring to Jeremy Corbyn? He was brought down by a dishonest campaign by the Jewish lobby.
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#336Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
Ridiculous stuff like this is why I'm cringing everytime any apple fanboi appears.
Are you dense? Apple and all other major companies are cooperating with FBI/NSA/CIA all the freakin' time.
These things they throw up is actually smart play from these global police agencies, so sheeps like you feel safe. (Android is the same thing)
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Signing into your personal accounts on a work machine is a terrible idea, as it opens up your personal accounts to search if there is a lawsuit (against you or against the company). That's assuming it's not already strictly forbidden by the company rules to prevent you from sending yourself confidential data. Also outside of programmers, IT, and designers, you rarely get a choice in the company issued laptop. It neve…
> Signing into your personal accounts on a work machine is a terrible idea, as it opens up your personal accounts to search if there is a lawsuit The machine is mine and I do work on it. Thanks for the concern but I’m not worried about getting sued. I’m sure it’s happened here previously, but it’s not like the US. > Also outside of programmers, IT, and designers, you rarely get a choice in the company issued laptop.…
Anyone working on a trackpad all day probably isn’t doing serious work ;) see we can all make unkind generalizations.
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#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
Difficulty: "Any day" meaning 1917 in Russia or 1933 in Germany. (Edit: for my next trick, I will read the post more carefully before replying)
I don't understand this comment the Tsar and the Nazi's were both governments. Another good example is the Dutch housing all the data in an building that was used to track down and kill the right people. The data existing is the problem. The ideal situation is that there is no data.
D'oh, you're right, I misread the GP. Finish coffee first, then post.
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Wrong. Society is just a social construct, but your right to independent thought and agency, which is powered by privacy, are fundamental to the human experience.
Having rights is a social construct. Unless you believe in divine order of things. But I suspect there’s nothing in physical reality that requires any rights to be granted to anyone.
The religious far outnumber the not so I think your "unless" is really the norm. Talking only the various Jesus fanclubs you have a literal divine right to privacy in confession and it's sinful to reveal another's secrets. The Adam and Eve creation myth establishes privacy when God created clothes.
The very concept natural rights is basically divine rights but without explicitly mentioning a god.
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#340Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
Unless it's China in which case they will not care about it!
It's very strange because like OP, huge fanboy. Early on it felt wrong to also burden Cupertino with being a cultural leader, but somewhere around $1.0T+ market cap, that has evolved.
Vaguely remember a charity used to have a thing where they'd auction off a dinner with Steve, then later Tim. Given time with a leader who has literally revolutionized supply chain in CN and a CEO who made Apple his own following the most notable CEO ever, going after various gotcha points would feel like a wasted opportunity. But think I'd have to ask why a company designed in California of the 1960s and 1970s doesn't have line in the sand policies when dealing with a genocidal government and perpetual backdoors in software and politics, but will take a move like this. Would hope for something more than a canned answer.