Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
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Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#2Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#3Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
In fairness, Meta has said the same thing re: WhatsApp, so while Apple deserves _some_ credit here for sticking to their principles, they're not exactly leading the pack. Which brings home the point that if _Meta_ isn't onboard with your privacy-obliterating proposal then you know you've really lost the plot...
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#4Privacy is a fundamental human right!
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#5Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
In fairness, Meta has said the same thing re: WhatsApp, so while Apple deserves _some_ credit here for sticking to their principles, they're not exactly leading the pack. Which brings home the point that if _Meta_ isn't onboard with your privacy-obliterating proposal then you know you've really lost the plot...
If anything that's a bolder move considering everyone uses Whatsapp there and barely anyone uses iMessage
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#6Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
In fairness, Meta has said the same thing re: WhatsApp, so while Apple deserves _some_ credit here for sticking to their principles, they're not exactly leading the pack. Which brings home the point that if _Meta_ isn't onboard with your privacy-obliterating proposal then you know you've really lost the plot...
I think Meta _needs_ WhatsApp to be their loss-leader (not really, but you know) when it comes to security. They always get to say "oh but WhatsApp is E2E!! We do care about security!"
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#7Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
I hope they really do this. All too often Companies will say this then when the law is passed they back down. Why, stockholders.
Has Apple really removed iMessage and FaceTime anywere else ? Are these available with 100% full encryption in China ? If so then they are just blowing wind :(
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#8I do like how Apple has backed themselves into a consumer-protecting hole here. I’m sure they would love to have access to that much conversational data themselves, of which no other company has access to.
If Siri ever improves too significantly I’ll get nervous.
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#9Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
>Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden
Such statements rarely end up ageing like wine in the long run. Why would you be so happy about being owned by some big corporation just because it's your favorite big corporation?
Self preservation has taught me not to trust any big corporation, regardless of how good their PR is.
Re: Apple says it'll remove iMessage and FaceTime in UK rather than break encryption
#10Stuff like this is why I'm an Apple fanboy. I'm happy to pay a premium and be locked into their walled garden for some things if it means supporting a company that has the power to shift policy in favor of human rights (privacy in this case).
I hope they really do this. All too often Companies will say this then when the law is passed they back down. Why, stockholders. Has Apple really removed iMessage and FaceTime anywere else ? Are these available with 100% full encryption in China ? If so then they are just blowing wind :(
> Are these available with 100% full encryption in China ? If so then they are just blowing wind :(
Talk less, read more.