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Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative

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Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative

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Note, their idea[0] of "open source" doesn't match the popular Open Source Definition [1] [0] https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-kotlin/blob/main/LICENSE... [1] https://opensource.org/osd/

When will VC companies stop conflating source available with open source? It's even worse than just being closed source as it's trying to pander to a group for money, and without any respect to the actual values of what they are saying.

Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative

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post #28

Note, their idea[0] of "open source" doesn't match the popular Open Source Definition [1] [0] https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-kotlin/blob/main/LICENSE... [1] https://opensource.org/osd/

You should be always skeptic but when someone write "Pure transparency — trust our code, not our words" in an EXTRA BIG font, you should be extra skeptic.

(co-founder of anytype) our main promises are privacy, end-to-end encryption, user controlled keys, self-hosting, p2p sync - all of which should add up to what we can user autonomy from the software provider which we believe to be important. To prove these claims the best way is open the source code. As promises of encryption and ownership stay promises unless you can be sure of it. That was one main motivation and why we think it's worth highlighting.

Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative

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I'm not familiar with Notion. How does this compare to something like Obsidian?

Obsidian is plaintext, Notion is richtext. This means, it's simpler to write complex documents in Notion and you don't need to know and handle complicated syntax. Which is good complex stuff like layout, tables, images. Anytype seems to have the same richtext-interface. But with obsidian on the other side, editing can be faster, if you know your syntax, and can type well.

And unlike obsidian, Notion has no direct mechanism for extension, which means there is no way to modify the app, or extend Notion-Documents with new types of data. There is an indirect way, by embedding urls, which comes with some limitations, and ultimatly it means you are depending on other servers, which comes with some more problems.

Not sure how anytype supports extensions.

Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative

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The proportion of philosophy to features in their marketing seems off. They say "trust our code, not our words" and then spend several paragraphs of words talking up their ideals. It feels like something is being hidden or talked around.

Data-independence may be one aspect that's not transparent. Compared to https://obsidian.md/, I can't just use raw Markdown or CSV file with Anytype. I've paid Obsidian $300+ just because it's data independence with a few obvious strings attached. By the same token, if I pursued a local-version of Notion for my team, I would also want the same freedom that local, open-standard files offer.

Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative

#75
post #45

Why does this smell like a cult? Talking about trust and having illusive pictures and designs.. And why do I need to login for an offline app? Where does the data really go? There is some setting remote storage, and some mb already used, so is in reallity an online-app with some offline-mirroring? But it seems there is not a choice to set the local storage-path, and the saved files are just your usual electron-blob-f…

They seem to have only one "node" so far, because the software is still in alpha? That's what their docs seem to say[1]. All your data primarily syncs to the encrypted backup node in the current alpha. For alpha testers, the application is always connected to the backup node and cannot be disconnected. Their homepage could tell this more clearly. It doesn't look like it's in alpha. [1] https://doc.anytype.io/d/troubl…

We are in open beta now. We have a network of nodes not one node.

Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative

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post #57
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is the link with the instructions https://tech.anytype.io/how-to/self-hosting

That's useless if the client also sends the same data to Any's node. You can't disable that for now: Self-hosting only without a backup node is currently unavailable The self-hosting-only feature is not released yet. If you don’t want to use Anytype node and instead use p2p sync between your devices, you can block Anytype network traffic (Anytype & Anytype Helper) via your firewall. From https://doc.anytype.io/d/data…

The idea that you can compile apps with your network configuration, so it's not easy, but it works.

Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative

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post #62
post #28

Note, their idea[0] of "open source" doesn't match the popular Open Source Definition [1] [0] https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-kotlin/blob/main/LICENSE... [1] https://opensource.org/osd/

Co-founder of anytype is here. The most of are repos are fully open-source. We have our philosophy regarding open source here https://blog.anytype.io/our-open-philosophy/ Happy to discuss concerns regarding our approach.

You deny your users the most basic freedom there is, the freedom to use your software for any purpose without discrimination. This is wrong, and so is your attempt to misuse and redefine the term "open source software".

Re: Anytype – local-first, P2P Notion alternative

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should be always skeptic but when someone write "Pure transparency — trust our code, not our words" in an EXTRA BIG font, you should be extra skeptic.

(co-founder of anytype) our main promises are privacy, end-to-end encryption, user controlled keys, self-hosting, p2p sync - all of which should add up to what we can user autonomy from the software provider which we believe to be important. To prove these claims the best way is open the source code. As promises of encryption and ownership stay promises unless you can be sure of it. That was one main motivation and w…

Is there a way to make sure I am using the code you published and not a different version?
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