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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I find that, in every domain, second place is almost always superior to first place where it counts despite being somewhat rougher around the edges. Firefox is a particularly excellent example of this phenomenon.

Why is that? Just good old-fashioned competitive optimization?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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What extension do you use for vertical tabs on FF? I tried tree style tabs and sideberry but liked neither.

I use tree style tabs, what don't you like about it?

That I need to install additional extensions for features I wanted and also relying on those extensions to stay maintained. Also I don't like tree structuring generally, because I noticed that that just enables my tab hoarding habit. Configuration was also a bit annoying (in my memory) due to the drop down menus

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Fx provided a decent enough performance boost with its builtin tracking blocker that more than made up for any difference in real world scenarios. …But I never switch away from Gecko since Fx v2.x.

What is Fx? An extension?

“Fx” is and basically has always been (v1.5) the official abbreviation for “Firefox”. This abbreviation is basically the only one used inside Mozilla & you can see it reflected in their project names to this day.

> How do I capitalize Firefox? How do I abbreviate it?

> Only the first letter is capitalized (so it's Firefox, not FireFox.) The preferred abbreviation is "Fx" or "fx".

– Mozilla Firefox 1.5 Release Notes, https://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_...

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

#544
Ok, now take the number of years during which Firefox was slower and calculate an averaged value of its speed. This will account for all the frustration it would have caused switching to it in the past. Being faster for 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months, and probably even for 2 years wouldn't be enough to cause a big change in that averaged value. And that would also measure how much of a guarateed good choice would be switching to Firefox right now. As soon as it will stay faster for enough time to smooth out the differences then I'll start consider using it.

I've been a Firefox advocate and user for many years, but then about 6 years ago I had to face the hard truth of how bad it performed with lots of tabs open, and how much of a pain I was causing myself for not switching to a Chromium powered browser.

About one month ago, I've checked it out again under the same conditions... and sadly it's still not even close to competitors' memory management.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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It's just ADHD, there's not really a workflow reason that I have 1000+ tabs open. It just kind of happens. Firefox/Sideberry is useful for mitigating that. I also have workflows set up for mass-exporting my tabs from Firefox to a text file and reorganizing them in plain-text and re-opening just the tabs I care about[0]. Bookmarking on any browser is cumbersome and leads to disorganization over time. Tree-style tabs h…

>> It's just ADHD, there's not really a workflow reason that I have 1000+ tabs open. It just kind of happens. If you use the word "just" then it's a you issue. Close the tabs and you'll be happier.

If your advice to someone struggling to stay organized is "be organized", you probably don't have much experience with ADHD or disorganization problems.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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https://www.tumblr.com/foone/721395638537961472/i-see-people... remains the best take on Brave that I've seen. "I see people talking about the Brave browser in the whole Firefox vs chrome debate, and while people rightly point out that it's just chromium and that they do shady cryptocurrency shit, I never see anyone point out that Brave's founder and CEO is Brandan Eich. "He founded Brave after massive protests again…

Regardless of what you think about gay marriage, the mere fact that Mozilla forced out its CEO for having an unpopular political opinion is reason enough not to trust its leadership. Its one of the reasons I use Brave and not Firefox.

I disagree. Vehemently.

It seems disingenuous to sweep "actively working to deny people civil rights" under the rug of "having an unpopular political opinion."

Partially because this wasn't just a matter of having an opinion; this was an extremely concrete _action._ Even if you want to take the (dubious) stance that people should not be held responsible for their beliefs, surely we should still hold people responsible for their actions?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Regardless of what you think about gay marriage, the mere fact that Mozilla forced out its CEO for having an unpopular political opinion is reason enough not to trust its leadership. Its one of the reasons I use Brave and not Firefox.

I disagree. Vehemently. It seems disingenuous to sweep "actively working to deny people civil rights" under the rug of "having an unpopular political opinion." Partially because this wasn't just a matter of having an opinion; this was an extremely concrete _action._ Even if you want to take the (dubious) stance that people should not be held responsible for their beliefs, surely we should still hold people responsibl…

I invite you to imagine the equivalent but reversed scenario. What if Brendan Eich had been contributing money to the pro-gay-marriage campaign and had been forced out by right-wing staff at Mozilla? Would that have been appropriate?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Honestly you are the first person I’ve ever heard that prefers chromes tab system. Check out tree style tabs it’ll change your life. I hate chrome now solely due to it

I recently started using Sidebery over TST and found it much more customizable for how I use tabs. It's worth taking a look at if you haven't already.

I installed it to see. I don't want something on the "side" - I want the tab organization to be on the top where the tabs ordinarily live anyway. That's what the Chrome tab groups does well. I can just visually see which tabs are grouped together, and collapse all of them.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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>> It's just ADHD, there's not really a workflow reason that I have 1000+ tabs open. It just kind of happens. If you use the word "just" then it's a you issue. Close the tabs and you'll be happier.

If your advice to someone struggling to stay organized is "be organized", you probably don't have much experience with ADHD or disorganization problems.

If you say "just" then you're trying to justify it without effort. Most of the people I interact with have ADHD and yes it's annoying as fuck but I don't fault them or blame them when they communicate in good faith. Using "just" to justify it means it's bad faith.

You choose to open tabs. Don't open tabs if you know you cannot handle that.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I disagree. Vehemently. It seems disingenuous to sweep "actively working to deny people civil rights" under the rug of "having an unpopular political opinion." Partially because this wasn't just a matter of having an opinion; this was an extremely concrete _action._ Even if you want to take the (dubious) stance that people should not be held responsible for their beliefs, surely we should still hold people responsibl…

I invite you to imagine the equivalent but reversed scenario. What if Brendan Eich had been contributing money to the pro-gay-marriage campaign and had been forced out by right-wing staff at Mozilla? Would that have been appropriate?

Nope! But that's because extending civil rights more uniformly to more people is a good thing, and selectively denying civil rights is a bad thing.

Any reductive moral framework that abstracts every possible political position into interchangeable spherical cows in a vacuum does a disservice to its users.

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