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ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by smolder »

mschuster91 wrote: post #216
ed_blackburn wrote: post #212

Where is the ARM equivalent or put another way budget Linux Apple Mini competitor?

Raspberry Pi and its various competitors... the problem is you can't just go and buy ARM CPUs or boards if you're not either willing to upfront serious amounts of cash or have personal relations to Qualcomm and friends (which is how RPi got their in). You have a couple top tier vendors when it comes to actually performant SoCs: - Apple, which exclusively produces for their own lineup, and has inarguably the best-perf…

> Apple [...] has inarguably the best-performing chips by far in raw performance and power efficiency

This is overstated. There are some benchmarks M2 does amazingly at, partly due to a super wide memory bus shared by the GPU. Power efficiency on performance desktop x86 is much worse than M2, but efficiency is comparable with lower TDP x86 SKUs and server chips.

If you're comparing M1/M2 chips to apple x86, you are looking at obsolete x86. Otherwise, I think it's buying into the hype just a bit much to say x86 is inarguably behind by far.

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Post by j45 »

Aromasin wrote: post #178
j45 wrote: post #59

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I waisted for the successor to skull canyon so long I just bought a Lenovo lol.

They brought out the Serpent/Raptor Canyon recently and they're awesome bits of kit.

Nice, I'll check it out. Know some folks who swore by it for their development desktop machine, even if they didn't develop much, they'd just remote into it from the macbook as needed.

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manmal wrote: post #301
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #271

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For the record, the PN40 not only has 1 SATA internal port, it even has an NVME-capable M.2 slot. I make no claims of the power consumption of the latter since I never used it. If you want a shitton of SATA ports you obviously have to go somewhere else but then even the power consumption of the idling SSDs will start to be troublesome (and when in use will likely necessitate another PSU). I also disagree with the ass…

M.2 SSDs have almost zero idle power draw, if that‘s what you meant? HDDs can spin down and will not draw much in that state. I think it‘s a reasonable assumption for a file server at home that it will spend most of time in spindown. I have seen some problematic reports on external enclosures on Reddit, but maybe they do work fine in many cases.

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Post by warp »

keithnz wrote: post #102

Anyone using a NUC as a mini home server? How is it? or if you use something else as mini server what? and why? I keep thinking of getting something which I can run multiple vms as needed for things like game servers, hosting docker containers, etc. load it up with a bunch of memory. I don't want anything too big/power hungry given most of the time it would likely sit idle.

I have an i3-8109U NUC, probably purchased in 2019. I've had to replace the fan a year or two ago (found an unofficial replacement on ebay), but otherwise I haven't had any trouble with it (running Debian).

It replaced a Raspberry Pi 3, and is obviously way more performant compared to that.

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Post by dmvdoug »

vxNsr wrote: post #274
tomsmeding wrote: post #244

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zUck https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-open_central_vowel bOOk https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_central_rounded_vowel

Must be a midwestern accent thing, I don’t pronounce book, “boooook” (as in what a ghost with a cough says)

Here are some pairs of words to show they don’t rhyme:

Pluck / took

Duck / rook

Suck / shook

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Post by Dah00n »

sandreas wrote: post #132

I personally used an old NUC6i5 with 16GB Ram and 1TB SSD as my private "HomeServer" / "Media-PC" / "RemoteMachine" for a long time, mainly bought because it was (and still is) 5.9W idle power consumption while reasonable performance (way more than a raspberry PI at the time). I also spent the money on an Akasa Passive case[1], which made the device very expensive in total, but it was worth it at the time. It's still…

Seems to me torrents are getting a big boost and people are fleeing from streaming. I see many buying alternatives to stream like "the old days" after they have cancelled Netflix etc. I'm one of them, canceling and adjusting for several families.

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Post by phpisthebest »

sofixa wrote: post #236
phpisthebest wrote: post #207

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I bought it for Price The Intel NUC Celeron systems could not be met for price if you also needed Windows. To beat the NUC Celeron on price you had to drop to ARM and use Linux but if the software you needed to run only supported Windows that was not an option. the Celeron NUC's where GREAT for Line of Business use cases where the computer was running a Screen, or Single windows Application

For just running a screen not only is Windows a massive waste in terms of resources and costs, but so is a NUC. A Raspberry Pi (equivalent) is more than sufficient.

thanks for not reading my comment as I clearly said many apps do not have ARM or Linux compatibility

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

fadedsignal wrote: post #264
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #172

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*That's much slower and higher latency than the internal storage. And where do you plug in the extra RAM?

Not if you use Thunderbolt 4 SSD (enclosure)

Yes, spend $600 on an base iMac Mini then spend $800 on an TB SSD with $200 worth of NVME inside it because ... logic ???

Meanwhile a 12th-Gen NUC with 16GB RAM and 500GB SSD costs ~$240 on Amazon, and you can replace the internal RAM and SSD with whatever size and models you want.

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Post by sofixa »

phpisthebest wrote: post #317
sofixa wrote: post #236

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For just running a screen not only is Windows a massive waste in terms of resources and costs, but so is a NUC. A Raspberry Pi (equivalent) is more than sufficient.

thanks for not reading my comment as I clearly said many apps do not have ARM or Linux compatibility

There is exactly zero reason for an app whose only purpose is to be shown on a screen to be Windows or x86 specific. It can be due to obsolete development practices or obscure vendor requirements, but still..

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Post by kcb »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #318
fadedsignal wrote: post #264

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Not if you use Thunderbolt 4 SSD (enclosure)

Yes, spend $600 on an base iMac Mini then spend $800 on an TB SSD with $200 worth of NVME inside it because ... logic ??? Meanwhile a 12th-Gen NUC with 16GB RAM and 500GB SSD costs ~$240 on Amazon, and you can replace the internal RAM and SSD with whatever size and models you want.

A 1 TB NVME SSD is like $40 retail these days.
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