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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Anyone using a NUC as a mini home server? How is it? or if you use something else as mini server what? and why? I keep thinking of getting something which I can run multiple vms as needed for things like game servers, hosting docker containers, etc. load it up with a bunch of memory. I don't want anything too big/power hungry given most of the time it would likely sit idle.

I have a NUC running Debian for 8 years as a fileserver for my home, with 2 x 2T USB HD. It was slow (USB2) but fine for the intended use of mostly cold storage.

I recently replaced it with a Synology Diskstation, looking for a new job for the still running NUC.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Are the minis upgradeable? My nuc now has an nvme drive and a 2.5" ssd, and I've upped it to 32gb ram for some light vmware work. On the other side of spectrum I have a few cheap nucs with celeron for media tv and streaming purposes. If I read it correctly, Mac mini is 800cad for 8gb ram and 256 sdd.

I understand, but I feel like nucs always end up at this weird, “I’m going to drop 200 on ram, 200 on a ssd and have a 700-900 dollar thing that has no second hand value and really isn’t that powerful”. I remember throttling being an issue as well. Add a custom heat sink and some thermal paste? (50-100 more..) It just feels like you’re paper cutting your way into a more expensive system. Not sure on small form factor…

I can understand that perception. Depends on situation I suppose. I find that a) ram and ssd prices are way more affordable than that b) I always seem to have some around anyway - The circle of upgrades! And c) I wish second hand value was low, I'd be buying them like candy, but it isn't :-/

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Decent Intel NUCs are ok price-wise, but definitely not cheap. A decent Linux-preinstalled box for my kid's Minecraft needs was about 800£ (non-basic Entroware Aura) here in UK. It's a good machine technically speaking: perfect for lightweight gaming, office stuff, browsing, etc. But I suspect that a comparable mini PC from asian vendors would be twice as cheap and just as good. A laptop would be even easier.

I have tried a couple of pretenders and they were not up to the 24/7 load I have lined up, random reboots and lockups, maybe it was bad luck, maybe it was thermal management, either way the NUC keeps trucking.

Yeah, it does feel, look and work solidly.

Just pointing out that "cheap" is not the best description of these things :-)

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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It's hard to take ASUS seriously with a quote like: > this collaboration will enhance and accelerate our vision for the mini PC – greatly expanding our footprint in areas such as AI and AIoT It's just dripping in buzzword doublespeak. The NUCs seem like cool devices, do we really have to shoehorn "AI" and -- I had to re-read this -- "AIoT" into everything?

Asus is one of the best in class, especially bang for your buck.

I suggest paying less attention to PR and more attention to specs. There is one company that is best in class for their PR/marketing, but their specs can't hold a candle if you are willing to spend equivalent money.

We should applaud companies that don't overspend on mind control/psychology tricks and spend that money instead on great products.

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With one of the third party cases, such as those from Akasa, they are nice inexpensive fanless machines with excellent Linux support and low power consumption.

I would remove the word "inexpensive". Many alternatives cost less. I know people buy Intel for brand, quality and warranty but definitely not price.

I bought it for Price

The Intel NUC Celeron systems could not be met for price if you also needed Windows. To beat the NUC Celeron on price you had to drop to ARM and use Linux but if the software you needed to run only supported Windows that was not an option.

the Celeron NUC's where GREAT for Line of Business use cases where the computer was running a Screen, or Single windows Application

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After owning and using the same shield since 2016 I was advising to get it if anyone asked for a streaming and local playback of media. But now days I think Apple TV beats it easily as a streaming device. If Apple moved to an M chip and added audio passthrough it would be no contest. I would not advise people to get Shield if they want to get a device for the next 5-6 years unless it has a hardware refresh.

It does 4k HDR and ATMOS. What does it lack?

I use it with Kodi and Jellyfin as well use streaming apps such as Netflix as well as geforce now. But its processor is old and it shows its age when going through movie collections. It does not support VP9 and now the new coming AV1 codec. So for someone getting a new device today I would not recommend it as the price premium they are asking for a 7-8 year old processor based device I feel is not worth it. With a Jellyfin or plex server you can play most of your media on your smart tv directly or you can get a $50 google tv or amazon fire stick

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I uses a NUC9 with hackintosh as my music production workstation. Although Apple is phasing out x86, it still have a lifespan of abput 2 to 3 years until Logic Pro no longer works.

Does Logic Pro phone home to startup? If not you could just have a much longer lifespan provided you don't care about updating Logic and the underlying OS, which is ok if that box is not connected to vulnerable machines and the internet.
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