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ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by RunSet »

mschuster91 wrote: post #216
ed_blackburn wrote: post #212

Where is the ARM equivalent or put another way budget Linux Apple Mini competitor?

Raspberry Pi and its various competitors... the problem is you can't just go and buy ARM CPUs or boards if you're not either willing to upfront serious amounts of cash or have personal relations to Qualcomm and friends (which is how RPi got their in). You have a couple top tier vendors when it comes to actually performant SoCs: - Apple, which exclusively produces for their own lineup, and has inarguably the best-perf…

> Apple, which exclusively produces for their own lineup, and has inarguably the best-performing chips by far in raw performance and power efficiency to a tune they're outperforming Intel

Also limited in terms of running Linux on it, since the poster you replied to asked about that.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by alias_neo »

Arnt wrote: post #186
alias_neo wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've used both NUC and Gigabyte BRIX at work and the BRIX are far more capable per $ compared to the NUC. Intel NUC is the BMW of mini PCs, certainly not "inexpensive" compared to the alternatives, even if we ignore the off-brand stuff.

I found NUC+monitor+mounting inexpensive compared to the alternatives about a decade ago. The NUC could be mounted on the back of the monitor, which made mounting cheap and simple. Two cables from the ceiling, one device fixed to the wall, done.

We use them as servers to be honest, so we've never had to worry about additional hardware. We deploy infrastructure on them as portable machines to take to conferences/demos etc which previously was done using in-house built ATX computers.

NUC and their ilk were a game changer and I'm glad to see a way for them to continue.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by deadbunny »

bfdm wrote: post #25
RandomBK wrote: post #5

I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

I have been using a NUC as an HTPC for several years now and it's great, though the comments in the previous conversation about them ending the line were right about the noise. I'm in the market for a similar device to replace my dangerously past EOL desktop, and funny enough I have been circling around Asus' SFF line.

I'm still using the i3 NUC I bought about 10 years ago for one of my home theatre boxes. It started kicking off a lot of fan noise after a few years the fix was to replace the (now dry and cracked) thermal paste and the fan went back to inaudible rpms.

I have about 10 nucs in various roles around the house and the first thing I do when buying them used from ebay is replace the thermal paste and they've all been fine.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by UnixSchizoid »

SSLy wrote: post #138
o1y32 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would remove the word "inexpensive". Many alternatives cost less. I know people buy Intel for brand, quality and warranty but definitely not price.

What would be some of the alternatives? I don't even need a gpu. It will be a home server.

I’ve gotten used Lenovo ThinkCenters for $30 on eBay. Sure they’re used and have a 3rd generation i3, but it’s the best budget home server option out there! They can easily replace whatever done on a pi and even more.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by tomComb »

flower-giraffe wrote: post #123

I think the influx of very low cost Chinese mini PCs makes the NUC, Asus PN and Asrock devices a bit less attractive. Also thelow power AMD APU has been very good for the form factor. Maybe the margins are too tight for Intel. Another take maybe that the NUC came in when low power Arm desktops looked viable and Intel needed a low power small form factor to defend against that. The Minisforum, Beelink and the generic…

> The Minisforum, Beelink and the generic aliexpress units are incredibly cheap.

Certainly are, hard to resist for personal use, but then I read that one will likely never receive a BIOS update.

Also, those moments when you wonder whether something in your home is listening, resulting in ads for something you've just talked about... well that is usually some super cheap product listening for keywords and selling the info to a company that can't get away with doing the listening themselves...

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by deadbunny »

rwmj wrote: post #175
keithnz wrote: post #102

Anyone using a NUC as a mini home server? How is it? or if you use something else as mini server what? and why? I keep thinking of getting something which I can run multiple vms as needed for things like game servers, hosting docker containers, etc. load it up with a bunch of memory. I don't want anything too big/power hungry given most of the time it would likely sit idle.

I have ~ 10 NUCs in various roles, also some Gigabyte Brix. Some are servers, some are single-use developer machines (eg. I have separate ones for RHEL 7, 8 and 9), one is a desktop, one is a router. Having owned so many over years, I've found they are fairly prone to problems and have some missing features. My main gripes are: - Unreliable RAM. Obviously being Intel, ECC is not supported, and I have had several with…

> - No remote access / BMC. This would be the one feature that would make the systems 100x more useful.

Ironically this is one of the options provided by some models in the dizzying line up. While it's not a dedicated IPMI port it uses Intel vPro for BMC like functionality. You'll pay a pretty premium for those models though.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Post by mikecoles »

phpisthebest wrote: post #207
o1y32 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would remove the word "inexpensive". Many alternatives cost less. I know people buy Intel for brand, quality and warranty but definitely not price.

I bought it for Price The Intel NUC Celeron systems could not be met for price if you also needed Windows. To beat the NUC Celeron on price you had to drop to ARM and use Linux but if the software you needed to run only supported Windows that was not an option. the Celeron NUC's where GREAT for Line of Business use cases where the computer was running a Screen, or Single windows Application

Needing that much horsepower for a screen or single application is a sign that anything requiring Windows should be automatically disqualified.
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