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Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by deprecative »

danShumway wrote: post #357
dahfizz wrote: post #259

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> I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs without it. I can't imagine having more than a dozen tabs open, period. You tab hoarders will never make sense to me...

It's just ADHD, there's not really a workflow reason that I have 1000+ tabs open. It just kind of happens. Firefox/Sideberry is useful for mitigating that. I also have workflows set up for mass-exporting my tabs from Firefox to a text file and reorganizing them in plain-text and re-opening just the tabs I care about[0]. Bookmarking on any browser is cumbersome and leads to disorganization over time. Tree-style tabs h…

>> It's just ADHD, there's not really a workflow reason that I have 1000+ tabs open. It just kind of happens.

If you use the word "just" then it's a you issue. Close the tabs and you'll be happier.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by jredwards »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #17

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

I went back to Firefox about 2 years ago. Zero regrets.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by sundarurfriend »

grogenaut wrote: post #473
sundarurfriend wrote: post #320

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Vimium - press shift-T - search among all page titles and URLs of open tabs.

Why is that better than searching history or bookmarks?

Bookmarks are long-term useful things to keep saved, and don't serve the same purpose as these open tabs.

As for history, imagine you're researching a topic and have gone through fifteen search results, decided three of them were relevant, and closed the others. Your history is polluted with all fifteen, whereas this tab search will directly return you these most relevant pages only.

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Post by jeltz »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #330
TremendousJudge wrote: post #315

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You end up using them as bookmarks of some sort, especially with the search bar doubling as tab search

I'm convinced that a significant proportion of people today don't use bookmarks and have never leveraged their power because they grew up with tabs and never bothered to explore their other options for organizing websites. You can save all of the tabs of your current session as a bookmark folder in one fell swoop! Your research tabs can be all saved together and opened as a group! Your gift ideas that you won't close…

Nah, I grew up with bookmarks and was constantly annoyed at the terrible UI for them and then when tabs got good enough I stopped using bookmarks since the default bookmarks UI is terrible.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by _y5hn »

unsungNovelty wrote: post #159
_y5hn wrote: post #65

Firefox or Librewolf would be my preference if it had tab groups.

Firefox containers are tab groups on steroids. Tab groups are just aesthetic while Firefox containers can not only group and colour code the tabs but isolate cache and stuff. This means you can use two gmail accounts in two separate tabs. It also means you can isolate you personal bank or other websites so that other data harvesting website cant get to that information. :) Firefox containers have been there long back…

Last time I checked it didn't allow me to group tabs, so not sure why it would be applicable to my usecase which is an UI thing. Seems to be two separate features to me at least, but maybe you know how to use containers to group tabs in top bar of browser.

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Post by npigrounet »

jesup wrote: post #290
terafo wrote: post #107

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Firefox is slower for me than Chrome, but that's because I have tab hoarding problem(2k tabs in Firefox right now).

2K? Not bad. My main linux box is running around 7500 tabs in 34 windows right now. Takes about 30s to start, which is fine since that browser gets restarted only every few weeks. My secondary desktop (windows) only has 2750 tabs. And there are users of Firefox out there with >15000 tabs. Two reasons for tab hoarding: 1) spatial -- related tabs are close together (frequently open a bunch of related search results; if…

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by merdaverse »

I have considered making the switch, but on Ubuntu touch screen is poorly implemented as mouse clicks instead of touch events. Chromium sidesteps this by doing its own touch detection, allowing me to comfortably browse through pages with touch. Firefox does not. Until either Firefox or Linux starts taking touchscreens on desktop seriously I will stick to Chrome, and in desperate times, Windows.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by pjmlp »

Kholin wrote: post #64
seba_dos1 wrote: post #17

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

For me, Firefox performs better on Linux than on Windows.

Until one needs to watch YouTube videos.

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Post by bool3max »

tapoxi wrote: post #94
eyegor wrote: post #42

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Tree style tabs is a vertical tab extension for ff and the best ui around if you use a lot of tabs. I can't even use chromium vertical tabs anymore because they feel terrible in comparison. You can also fully style tree style tabs via css. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

But then you get duplicates, since Mozilla made it a pain to disable the main tab bar. I'm using a Chromium offshoot (Arc) but I also like how Vivaldi handles vertical tabs. Firefox doesn't just compete with Chromium itself, but the entire ecosystem.

I've had the main tab bar disabled for a few years now via some CSS tweak, so it's possible.

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Post by ibotty »

JohnFen wrote: post #407
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #394

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>But I completely trust Firefox on the password issue, to the point that I let it generate them for me. Not that I don't trust them but I always recommend using a dedicated PW manager like KeePassXC which is FOSS and has been security audited, plus it gives you full control over where you get to store your PWs and how they're secured and generated.

I'm even stricter than you. I use a password manager, but on a separate device from where I use passwords and it does not talk over the network. Wen I use a password, I look it up and type it in by hand. No autofill is possible, intentionally.

This is unfortunately not robust against phishing which is for most users the bigger risk IMO (not necessarily power users, but I'd argue that most power users are too sure about themselves in this regard). It's always a question about the threat vectors and this weight you give them.
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