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Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by globular-toast »

frou_dh wrote: post #124

It's kinda interesting that some of the younger amongst us might have only ever known Chrome through the lens of its meme-like reputation for being a big fat hog. Because when it was originally released like 15 years ago, the pitch/consensus were the exact opposite of that, i.e. ultra clean and efficient.

As was Firefox (originally Pheonix, then Firebird), which was the ultra clean and efficient version of Mozilla. It was crazy how much better it was compared to IE6. It just didn't have a monopoly and anti-competitive marketing behind it like Chrome and IE did.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by globular-toast »

hooby wrote: post #176

It would be really bad if everyone used Firefox - just as it would be very bad if everyone used Chrome (or even any other browser based on the same rendering engine). We all absolutely do benefit greatly from having multiple competing browsers and render engines - regardless of which one we individually prefer to use. Therefore I really don't understand the many, many, many "my-browser-is-better-than-yours-you-should…

It wouldn't be as bad if everyone used Firefox, though.

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Post by aidenn0 »

bayindirh wrote: post #278
CmdrKrool wrote: post #216

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Good reason to avoid Firefox for development imo. Nothing is more annoying than mysterious cache interventions when you're trying to get a handle on an unrelated problem.

Dev tools automatically disables caching for that tab, by default. CTRL+SHIFT+R always disables cache for that reload, too.

I didn't know about devtools doing that; C-S R is what I use when I run into it.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by nwienert »

I’ve got a landing page I’ve been working on that pushes the limits on things by overlapping all sorts of effects: WebGL, mix-blend-mode, clip-path, SVGs, overlapping animations on custom fonts, etc.

Safari and Chrome run it surprisingly well. Firefox was getting basically 1fps. I had to turn off half the effects before it felt reasonable.

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Post by TremendousJudge »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #297
manuelmoreale wrote: post #292

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A bunch is reasonable but I’ve seen people here on HN claim to have multiple windows with thousand of tabs on them. That is beyond comprehension for me but if it works for them that’s awesome.

Oh, yeah thousands seems like a lot. But I'm not sure, maybe there's a workflow where that makes sense.

You end up using them as bookmarks of some sort, especially with the search bar doubling as tab search

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Post by purerandomness »

kevinlinxc wrote: post #241
generalizations wrote: post #222

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That's pretty much the reason for me as well. The day some other browser makes tree-style tabs, firefox will probably lose a user.

Longtime ff user, I use "Tab Groups Extension" for Chrome at work where ff is not allowed

What kind of work allows Chrome, but not Firefox? Google?

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by i_am_jl »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #98
systems_glitch wrote: post #60

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I used to keep Chrome installed just for the dev tools, but the Firefox dev tools became good enough in probably 2013 or so.

Firefox gave birth to the first good dev tools as an extension IIRC

You're definitely right.

I'll go even further; As I remember it Chrome Dev Tools pretty much copied Firebug's homework in terms of UI and feature set.

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Post by tredre3 »

andai wrote: post #253
alpaca128 wrote: post #91

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Same. Recently I tried Brave because of all the praise but turns out the browser can only display around 80 tabs on the tab bar and every further tab simply never shows up even if it's in the foreground. I've seen mobile browsers handle many tabs better. I'm staying with Firefox, though I think Brave is probably still a good recommendation for users that don't want to go through the effort of installing an ad blocker…

Not to do a "you're holding it wrong", but why would you want so many tabs that they go offscreen? More precisely, why 100 tabs in 1 window instead of 10 tabs times 10 windows?

I don't understand tab hoarding either but Chrome/Brave's tab bar poor design becomes a problem even in what I'd consider pretty mundane scenarios.

Imagine you snap your browser to half your screen. Assuming it's not an ultrawide, you'll be able to fit maybe a dozen tabs before they're so tiny to be essentially useless.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by jraph »

almenon wrote: post #252
terafo wrote: post #107

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Firefox is slower for me than Chrome, but that's because I have tab hoarding problem(2k tabs in Firefox right now).

Wh....why?

On my side, a combination of:

- I'm likely to return back to some of them. I might not know which ones. Typing in the address bar brings them back fast and the page does not need to be loaded again. Having the tab already open is also a strong signal that this is what I'm looking up.

- no noticeable slowdown anyway, Firefox is actually quite efficient.

- I don't care for taking the time of closing them progressively. It happens that I will close them all at the same time at some point when I feel like I need some clean up. Usually when I'm done with something.

- I think I learned to mostly ignore this part of the screen. Everything happens in the address bar.

In short, it's a combination of intentionally leaving tabs open so I can go back to them later without reloading the page, and not wanting to spend the time to manage them.

I usually have under 100 tabs open though, often even fewer.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by sundarurfriend »

grogenaut wrote: post #273
Night_Thastus wrote: post #263

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There are plenty of legitimate reasons to have multiple tabs open that doesn't really have to do with "hoarding". For games, I often have a bunch of wiki tabs open at the same time.

For me I just type titles or word back into the browser bar and Firefox searches history. How are you searching/navigating to find the right tab of several hundred to go back to that tab?

Vimium - press shift-T - search among all page titles and URLs of open tabs.
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