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Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using a NUC as an HTPC for several years now and it's great, though the comments in the previous conversation about them ending the line were right about the noise. I'm in the market for a similar device to replace my dangerously past EOL desktop, and funny enough I have been circling around Asus' SFF line.

Would a Mac mini work?

Non Apple Silicon is usually overpriced for the CPU benchmark point to run linux

Nucs, or USFF's are quite performant.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I feel like it’s really hard to justify one of these in light of m2 Mac minis. High usage memory applications?

Base price is $599 for 8GB and 256GB of storage. A NUC with more storage isn't that expensive.

There are advantages if the M2 is what you want, but CPU/GPU aren't always the thing to optimize for here.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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It's hard to take ASUS seriously with a quote like: > this collaboration will enhance and accelerate our vision for the mini PC – greatly expanding our footprint in areas such as AI and AIoT It's just dripping in buzzword doublespeak. The NUCs seem like cool devices, do we really have to shoehorn "AI" and -- I had to re-read this -- "AIoT" into everything?

Wait the I in IoT was internet....is that...artificial internet?

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

I use a Skull Canyon as my daily driver for programming and honestly I wouldn't have selected another machine.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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post #3

It's hard to take ASUS seriously with a quote like: > this collaboration will enhance and accelerate our vision for the mini PC – greatly expanding our footprint in areas such as AI and AIoT It's just dripping in buzzword doublespeak. The NUCs seem like cool devices, do we really have to shoehorn "AI" and -- I had to re-read this -- "AIoT" into everything?

At the same time, it’s not much to get surprised or worked up about. The marketing copy on any given PC OEM website for any particular product has always been complete jibberish.

These are companies running on extremely thin margins that have minimal marketing budgets.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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post #5

I find the development quite interesting, and it lends credence to the theory Intel's NUC line was technically profitable (or at least not horrifically in the red), but just didn't make strategic sense - especially from a 'competing with your own customers' view. While I never bought one of these NUCs myself, I've used quite a few deployed as thin clients and kiosk machines. Let's see what ASUS ends up doing with the…

With one of the third party cases, such as those from Akasa, they are nice inexpensive fanless machines with excellent Linux support and low power consumption.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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I feel like it’s really hard to justify one of these in light of m2 Mac minis. High usage memory applications?

Are the minis upgradeable? My nuc now has an nvme drive and a 2.5" ssd, and I've upped it to 32gb ram for some light vmware work. On the other side of spectrum I have a few cheap nucs with celeron for media tv and streaming purposes. If I read it correctly, Mac mini is 800cad for 8gb ram and 256 sdd.

I understand, but I feel like nucs always end up at this weird, “I’m going to drop 200 on ram, 200 on a ssd and have a 700-900 dollar thing that has no second hand value and really isn’t that powerful”. I remember throttling being an issue as well. Add a custom heat sink and some thermal paste? (50-100 more..)

It just feels like you’re paper cutting your way into a more expensive system. Not sure on small form factor pcs otherwise though. Hp z2 minis always seemed neat and typically have a promo code that works with a bare config you can bring your own ram/disk + Linux.

Re: ASUS to manufacture and sell Intel’s NUC products

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Dear ASUS: please make a range of NUC with either on-board 4+ SATA lanes or a PCIx instance which can take a daughtercard which does true parallel SATA, not serialised. TL;DR the market for home RAID/NAS is huge. We need you to stop needing us to max out with only 1 device, and sometimes M.2 keying isn't where we are. People are well beyond "2 disks is enough" in a home NAS now. thanksbai.

Looking at the bandwidth numbers a PCIe 3 x4 slot (like those used for M.2 slots) should be good for 4x SATA 3 ports, no "serialization" required.

There's this https://www.tomshardware.com/news/silverstone-turns-one-m2-s... but it's only x2 and theoretically a bottleneck.

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