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Dusk OS: 32-bit Forth OS. Useful during first stage of civilizational collapse

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Re: Dusk OS: 32-bit Forth OS. Useful during first stage of civilizational collapse

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Light at night to work was a major achievement for humanity and there are still many lacking it reliably today. It would continue to be useful post collapse. Portable solar panels + lithium battery banks would be quite useful indeed.

Lithium batteries will be dead within a decade. Solar panels within 3. Think about that the next time you cheer on a huge solar installation as a win for the planet.

All the flashlights at my home are powered by ~14 year old 18650 cells scavenged from old lenovo battery packs (I think mostly x61 batteries).

Usually the case is that one cell in a 'dead' battery has far lower capacity, and might only run a flashlight for 20 minutes (which is still useful, though I dispose of those). The other cells are comparable to new ones in capacity (maybe they're 90% or whatever of their original).

We often have a distorted idea of lifetimes and reliability because absent real scarcity we're overly prone to discarding things which can be fixed (e.g. using 5 bad laptop batteries to make four good ones) or are still usable. If you have no other source of light at night a flashlight you can only use for 20 minutes is still a life changing transformative device.

One could imagine searching for battery technology with much longer lifetimes. But I think you'd be better off with the best batteries you can find out of thousands of lithium cells ambient around you than just a few 'super batteries', esp if you're only talking about your lifetime or the lifetime of your children.

Re: Dusk OS: 32-bit Forth OS. Useful during first stage of civilizational collapse

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After civilizational collapse you won't need computers, you'll need bows, arrows and basic agricultural tools that don't require motors. Forget about electricity or anything requiring it, that will be the least of your problems. Assuming there is still sunlight enough to keep photosynthesis running. If not, you may want to find some place high. And if you are going to do something like this then you really should mak…

The main source of power for early radios in pre-rural electrification 1930s West Texas: small windmills that charged batteries for them - the wind is almost always blowing in West Texas. Zenith Radio Windcharger was the main type I remember seeing at the American Windmill Museum in Lubbock, a must-see if you find yourself in Lubbock for some reason. On that note, learning CW (Morse Code) well enough to understand it…

> about early (pre-transistor) radio technology

I dunno if that's a good tradeoff. It's fairly difficult to make good tubes and the performance of pre-tube radio technology is extremely poor. Yet your home alone probably contains hundreds of transistors which could be scavenged to make radio receivers and transmitters.

Constructed correctly these devices have no significant wear out mechanism.

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