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Strange premise but cool project. I think during a civilizational collapse and after there will be plenty of computers we could run plain old Linux and windows on.
So an OS that’s lets user operate very close to metal/driver level? I still can’t imagine what the os will look like vs regular Linux
After civilizational collapse you won't need computers, you'll need bows, arrows and basic agricultural tools that don't require motors. Forget about electricity or anything requiring it, that will be the least of your problems. Assuming there is still sunlight enough to keep photosynthesis running. If not, you may want to find some place high. And if you are going to do something like this then you really should mak…
After civilizational collapse you won't need computers, you'll need bows, arrows and basic agricultural tools that don't require motors. Forget about electricity or anything requiring it, that will be the least of your problems. Assuming there is still sunlight enough to keep photosynthesis running. If not, you may want to find some place high. And if you are going to do something like this then you really should mak…
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Yeah, this is an interesting project, but the author's belief that society is going to completely collapse by 2030 is... odd.
If society doesn't collapse by 2030, who's harmed by this project existing? And if you're going to pick a date, why one over another? +7 years seems a reasonable goal to make progress towards
Also it's effin goofy. Nerd CEOs building their underground fantasy post apocalypse shelter, thinking that not only that the society will collapse I their life time into a Fallout-ish World, but that their shelter is going to be of big help. But the goofyness is just that, it's the promotion and prophecies that are harmful.
But the “collapse” backstory seems silly and redundant, and dare I say it reminiscent of the kind of prepper that relishes the prospect of apocalypse, just so that all their prepping pays off.
After civilizational collapse you won't need computers, you'll need bows, arrows and basic agricultural tools that don't require motors. Forget about electricity or anything requiring it, that will be the least of your problems. Assuming there is still sunlight enough to keep photosynthesis running. If not, you may want to find some place high. And if you are going to do something like this then you really should mak…
Light at night to work was a major achievement for humanity and there are still many lacking it reliably today. It would continue to be useful post collapse. Portable solar panels + lithium battery banks would be quite useful indeed.
Anything that you rely on in a situation like that should be 100% maintenance free and should not rely on technology more complex than what you can make today in your garage with hand tools. Go over that level and it will just buy you a little bit of comfort but it won't last.
Candles: yes. Solar panels+batteries+inverters: forget it. Even a basic charge controller would be a major feat of engineering under those circumstances. I have some ideas on how I'd make that work if I really had to but I'd probably be too busy defending myself from marauders and taking care of my crops to be able to work on it...
What's interesting here is that plenty of the stuff that we take for granted is absolutely state-of-the-art engineering and there is no way that you'd be able to continue to rely on it for more than the available stock that you could still lay your (likely very grubby) hands on for spares, and even those have a limited shelf life.
Bootstrapping to the present day level of technology where working semiconductors can be taken for granted will take a long, long time. Even if you have the knowledge. Assuming that enough of the eco-system survives that you will be able to survive and procreate I'd estimate at least several generations, if we didn't entirely regress to some more primitive state. Mad Max would be an amazing level to bootstrap from, having working computers means you're focusing on the wrong thing. Electric light might be a good idea, but personally I would not count on LEDs or bulbs to last long enough in quantity and if you're going for batteries keep it simple: lead acid flooded cells (You'll need some basic chemistry tools and materials to make sulphuric acid, but that's probably doable).
what advantages would this have over something like IDK, debian?
It's much, much, much simpler and more compact. The core system is about 8000 lines of code. The C compiler is 1400. Its memory footprint is extremely small (1MB to have a C compiler running on bare metal in the PC architecture). From here, you have a system capable of building C programs as well as bootstrapping itself. This is level of simplicity is staggering and empowering -- it is completely reasonable to read a…
After civilizational collapse you won't need computers, you'll need bows, arrows and basic agricultural tools that don't require motors. Forget about electricity or anything requiring it, that will be the least of your problems. Assuming there is still sunlight enough to keep photosynthesis running. If not, you may want to find some place high. And if you are going to do something like this then you really should mak…
Light at night to work was a major achievement for humanity and there are still many lacking it reliably today. It would continue to be useful post collapse. Portable solar panels + lithium battery banks would be quite useful indeed.