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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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What do you find lacking in Firefox dev tools? For me I actually prefer them to Chrome.

Not who you replied to, but: performance analysis, service worker debugging, indexeddb inspection (I use firefox devtools primarily)

Have you tried the new profiler since you're talking about performance analysis? It's insanely in-depth.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Really cool how you can see Firefox speed enhancements showing up in discrete steps. I am surprised to see Chrome faster than Chromium. What is google doing in their branded flavor?

Probably PGO. Even prebuilt Firefox tend to be faster than distro provided ones, at least at some point on the past.

Looks like the Arch repos do PGO on firefox: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fi...

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds. I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs withou…

I hate the tab reload in Chrome after switching tabs, which often changes form input.

I believe you can disable this newly-added functionality.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Im also a recent to firefox from Chrome convert recently (win 11). My reason is UI latency related, and my used case is a tad unique. As a network engineer, and system administrator, my daily PC is very high end enterprise hardware and running windows 11, and has 8 x 4K monitors. I always will have 20 to 50 web browser windows open as well as many tabs in each of those windows. The main issue I was encountering, and…

8 x 4K monitors, I'm so jealous wow. I wish my work would give me even one, I'm developing on 2 full hd monitors :(

I even do some design work so it's honestly pretty bad.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I used to keep Chrome installed just for the dev tools, but the Firefox dev tools became good enough in probably 2013 or so.

Firefox gave birth to the first good dev tools as an extension IIRC

And then completely lost the plot and has been behind Chrome for the last ten years.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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>But I completely trust Firefox on the password issue, to the point that I let it generate them for me. Not that I don't trust them but I always recommend using a dedicated PW manager like KeePassXC which is FOSS and has been security audited, plus it gives you full control over where you get to store your PWs and how they're secured and generated.

I'm even stricter than you. I use a password manager, but on a separate device from where I use passwords and it does not talk over the network. Wen I use a password, I look it up and type it in by hand. No autofill is possible, intentionally.

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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>But I completely trust Firefox on the password issue, to the point that I let it generate them for me. Not that I don't trust them but I always recommend using a dedicated PW manager like KeePassXC which is FOSS and has been security audited, plus it gives you full control over where you get to store your PWs and how they're secured and generated.

To be fair, Firefox is also FOSS, contains an integrated password manager with extraordinarily well-integrated browser compatibility, and by opting to use a master password to encrypt or decrypt the store also gives you control over securitization, storage location, and generation. Not to say that KeePassXC isn’t useful if you want even more fine-grained controls, but it seems like in the > Use password in browser Us…

My problem with Firefox's password manager is there doesn't seem to be a way to export/import to/from an encrypted file that I can back up to other places. I can export to an unencrypted text file (and no apparent way to import again), or I can use their sync service (or run my own maybe?), or I can backup the entire firefox profile.

This is what Firefox says when I go to export my logins: "[!] Your paswords will be saved as readable text (e.g., BadP@ssw0rd) so anyone who can open the exported file can view them."

KeePassXC on the other hand gives me a simple encrypted database file that I can copy around to different places for some peace of mind.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Glad to see this, browsers have been mostly Chromium based for a while. Safari seems to be lagging a lot since the split, and I just don't like the Firefox UI as much. OT: Just curious... does anyone have a good cross-browser extension (chrome and FF browsers) that can sync the bookmarks, in particular the bookmark toolbar. I use a password manager (Bitwarden) that integrates well, wish I could get the same for the b…

I’ve tried to find something like this multiple time over the past years, but it seems browsers do their best to protect bookmarks from extensions It seems the only way are tools that directly edit each respective browsers setting files (ie from the command line) but I’d rather not go down that path.

There used to be xbookmarks.com but it is long gone. There is an open source tool by the name of XBrowserSync [1] which came up when I searched for xbookmarks. What they say on their website sounds promising, but I did not do any further research or try it out. I'm on Firefox on all my devices ;)

[1] https://www.xbrowsersync.org/

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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I also like that Firefox isn't putting artificial limitations on the plugins that we can use in order to appease their infinite hunger for ad revenue. Chrome's manifest v3's entire purpose for existence is to ultimately snuff out ad blockers so they can make the internet worse for everyone and get more money in the process. And if you don't believe me then you are wrong. Of course they won't do it immediately. They w…

Edge provides a compelling alternative that is a drop-in replacement for Chrome for most users. I wonder if the competition will keep Google in check. I also wonder if Edge will end up providing its own ad-blocker if Google's restrictions become too onerous. Probably easier than forking the core browser to maintain a parallel build without the extension limitations.

AFAIK all chromium based browsers will follow Manifest V3. Edge will also as otherwise adblockers and the like would impact M$ revenue.

Manifest v3 is just everyone's get out of jail free card for not being responsible for the destruction of ad blocking and privacy extensions. Blame it on Google, who says they "had to do it" for some reason that ultimately profits them and their ilk to the detriment of humanity.

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