My only suggestion is for FireFox to implement the native UI elements of the system (dropdowns, menus) etc. Than using something of their own. Where Chrome uses the system native UI elements.
Is there a way to fix it with some tweeking?
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You end up using them as bookmarks of some sort, especially with the search bar doubling as tab search
I'm convinced that a significant proportion of people today don't use bookmarks and have never leveraged their power because they grew up with tabs and never bothered to explore their other options for organizing websites. You can save all of the tabs of your current session as a bookmark folder in one fell swoop! Your research tabs can be all saved together and opened as a group! Your gift ideas that you won't close…
On modern browsers, don't unused/old tabs take up basically no resources?
I remember both Chrome and FF making a big deal over that point years ago.
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Give Firefox Developer Edition a try, if haven't already, and are looking for more robust development tools.
Maybe I was just unlucky, but the one time I tried it, it refused to launch. I'd rather not have my professional work tools be built against a beta channel when there are better alternatives.
I have been using the Developer Edition since 2014, when it was released, without issue. You are not locked into a single browser. Personally I use more then one browser, and professionally I always validate against multiple browsers.
I find different browsers excel at different things in regards to the developer experience. As an example I appreciate that Firefox had a formatted JSON view without requiring an extension. However Chrome also has capabilities that I wish were included in Firefox.
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#364Im also a recent to firefox from Chrome convert recently (win 11). My reason is UI latency related, and my used case is a tad unique. As a network engineer, and system administrator, my daily PC is very high end enterprise hardware and running windows 11, and has 8 x 4K monitors.
I always will have 20 to 50 web browser windows open as well as many tabs in each of those windows.
The main issue I was encountering, and my best guess, from a lot of testing over the past three years, is related to the large pixel count of my desktop - I would frequently encounter 1 to 2 seconds of lag/unresponsiveness when switching from chrome to another (chrome) application in the background. As this has been a nearly 3 year long issue, I’ve tried many , MANY fixes/work arounds The two most impactful were upgrading from windows 10 to windows 11. And switching from chrome from primarily using chrome to Firefox. (The issue was actually the same with chrome canary, as well as with GPU rendering enabled or disabled in each browser.)
while I now run Firefox 24/7, I will occasionally open up chrome or chrome canary in unique use cases, and still notice the performance improvement in firefox during those times.
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As a fellow tab hoarder, I recommend using Tab Session Manager plugin. You can easily save all tabs, although from my own experience I've almost never restored them anyway lol
I prefer Tab Stash. It can be also used as a side bar for your tabs, but can close every currently open one and put them into a group you can optionally name for later reuse.
+1 for Tab Stash. I find it really elegant that the storage is just simple bookmark folders. It's basically a nice UI on top of bookmarks.
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I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds. I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs withou…
> I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs without it. I can't imagine having more than a dozen tabs open, period. You tab hoarders will never make sense to me...
I turn tabs off completely and hide the tab bar.
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> I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs without it. I can't imagine having more than a dozen tabs open, period. You tab hoarders will never make sense to me...
It's just ADHD, there's not really a workflow reason that I have 1000+ tabs open. It just kind of happens. Firefox/Sideberry is useful for mitigating that. I also have workflows set up for mass-exporting my tabs from Firefox to a text file and reorganizing them in plain-text and re-opening just the tabs I care about[0]. Bookmarking on any browser is cumbersome and leads to disorganization over time. Tree-style tabs h…
It's ADHD sure, but it's also an unwillingness to close tabs, and (generally) that we have poor windowing systems that force us into ~1-2 browser windows at a time because browser windows are harder to manage than tabs.
The big change for me has been realizing that all my "tabs" are still there, in the form of my browser history, or if not, via Google search. If I can't find my way back to a website via my history or via searching the web, then I probably also wouldn't be able to find it among 1000 tabs. So why not close the tabs and be free of them?
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#368There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.
I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds. I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs withou…
Brave has tree style tabs now
Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer
#369Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox already allows for proper tab UIs, so no need to search for other solutions there :)
Just curious, what does that UI look like with 1,000 tabs open? Isn't it just like, one pixel per tab, or a scrollbar 50 times wider than your monitor? Is that actually useful?
The handy part about Firefox, unlike Chrome, will shrink tabs to a minimum width and then make them a horizontally scrolling list. I am somewhat of a tab hoarder (I also keep browser windows on vertical monitors), so using Chrome, where it would shrink tabs more and more until there's nothing but a sliver, wouldn't work. Below are screenshots of examples. Firefox keeps things usable; Chrome not so much. (I also know it isn't 1000 tabs, nor is it close to the amount I keep open on my work laptop).
Firefox: https://yld.moe/raw/nVE.png
Chrome: https://yld.moe/raw/vu8.png
Also, if you're wondering why my tabs look like they're from 2017, that's just another benefit of using Firefox [1]. Although as nice as it being able to actually customize our browsers, it would be nice for Mozilla to stop breaking things for sake of breaking things.
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#370Firefox is the best. I wish Mozilla would let me donate funds specifically to fund it's development for my own peace of mind.