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Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by 542458 »

jeroenhd wrote: post #277

That's very interesting! Last time I benchmarked Firefox, it performed half as fast as Chrome or Gnome's WebKit. I should run my benchmarks again! I do wonder though, is this performance improvement Windows specific? It's hard to believe that Mozilla could make up the difference in only three or four months. Edit: looks like Chromium still beats Firefox on Linux: https://treeherder.mozilla.org/perfherder/graphs?highl…

https://arewefastyet.com/win10/benchmarks/overview?numDays=6...

Looks like it really depends on the benchmark. In some Firefox gets slaughtered, in some Firefox is the clear winner.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by tracker1 »

Glad to see this, browsers have been mostly Chromium based for a while. Safari seems to be lagging a lot since the split, and I just don't like the Firefox UI as much.

OT: Just curious... does anyone have a good cross-browser extension (chrome and FF browsers) that can sync the bookmarks, in particular the bookmark toolbar. I use a password manager (Bitwarden) that integrates well, wish I could get the same for the bookmarks toolbar.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by unilynx »

tracker1 wrote: post #402

Glad to see this, browsers have been mostly Chromium based for a while. Safari seems to be lagging a lot since the split, and I just don't like the Firefox UI as much. OT: Just curious... does anyone have a good cross-browser extension (chrome and FF browsers) that can sync the bookmarks, in particular the bookmark toolbar. I use a password manager (Bitwarden) that integrates well, wish I could get the same for the b…

I’ve tried to find something like this multiple time over the past years, but it seems browsers do their best to protect bookmarks from extensions

It seems the only way are tools that directly edit each respective browsers setting files (ie from the command line) but I’d rather not go down that path.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by Vrondi »

copperx wrote: post #337
ranting-moth wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had this happen and businesses have lost my business because of it.

Using Chrome to support small businesses seems reasonable to me. They might not have a big development budget to test their site on all browsers.

Chipotle is definitely not a small business.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by theusus »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #17

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

Yeah, while people here used to complain about it. But whenever I went to Chrome(or derivatives) on desktop. I experienced poor performance.

Firefox has been very smooth since couple of years.

Mobile has to catch-up though.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by hackinthebochs »

BizarroLand wrote: post #384
seba_dos1 wrote: post #17

There was a time when Firefox felt a lot slower than Chromium, but for a few years now it's been close enough (even if still somewhat slower) to not bother me, while Firefox clearly offers superior functionality and much better performance under high load. The last time Chromium has felt attractive compared to Firefox was a really long time ago. Glad to see it moving in the right direction still.

I also like that Firefox isn't putting artificial limitations on the plugins that we can use in order to appease their infinite hunger for ad revenue. Chrome's manifest v3's entire purpose for existence is to ultimately snuff out ad blockers so they can make the internet worse for everyone and get more money in the process. And if you don't believe me then you are wrong. Of course they won't do it immediately. They w…

Edge provides a compelling alternative that is a drop-in replacement for Chrome for most users. I wonder if the competition will keep Google in check. I also wonder if Edge will end up providing its own ad-blocker if Google's restrictions become too onerous. Probably easier than forking the core browser to maintain a parallel build without the extension limitations.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by JohnFen »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #394
dhimes wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've stayed (edit: with Firefox) because of (1) containers and (2) password storage. I have to use Chrome for some things, and every now and then it prompts me for a password and refuses to use the auto-fill. Totally torques me off because my passwords are not easy. But I completely trust Firefox on the password issue, to the point that I let it generate them for me.

>But I completely trust Firefox on the password issue, to the point that I let it generate them for me. Not that I don't trust them but I always recommend using a dedicated PW manager like KeePassXC which is FOSS and has been security audited, plus it gives you full control over where you get to store your PWs and how they're secured and generated.

I'm even stricter than you. I use a password manager, but on a separate device from where I use passwords and it does not talk over the network.

Wen I use a password, I look it up and type it in by hand. No autofill is possible, intentionally.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by fardo »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #394
dhimes wrote: post #389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've stayed (edit: with Firefox) because of (1) containers and (2) password storage. I have to use Chrome for some things, and every now and then it prompts me for a password and refuses to use the auto-fill. Totally torques me off because my passwords are not easy. But I completely trust Firefox on the password issue, to the point that I let it generate them for me.

>But I completely trust Firefox on the password issue, to the point that I let it generate them for me. Not that I don't trust them but I always recommend using a dedicated PW manager like KeePassXC which is FOSS and has been security audited, plus it gives you full control over where you get to store your PWs and how they're secured and generated.

To be fair, Firefox is also FOSS, contains an integrated password manager with extraordinarily well-integrated browser compatibility, and by opting to use a master password to encrypt or decrypt the store also gives you control over securitization, storage location, and generation.

Not to say that KeePassXC isn’t useful if you want even more fine-grained controls, but it seems like in the

> Use password in browser

Use case, KeePass would actually weaken the security guarantee by adding a second component you need to trust.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by JohnFen »

dahfizz wrote: post #259
beltsazar wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because Chrome was slower. Specially, when there were many tabs opened, switching tabs in Chrome were usually prefaced with a blank white screen for about 2 seconds. I've been staying with Firefox not for the performance (today Chrome loads Google sites like YouTube faster), but mainly for Tree Style Tab extension. I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs withou…

> I couldn't imagine opening more than a dozen of tabs without it. I can't imagine having more than a dozen tabs open, period. You tab hoarders will never make sense to me...

I truly don't understand how people benefit from using tabs that way, either. It makes no sense at all to me.

Nonetheless, it's clear that people do. I don't have to understand.

Re: Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

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Post by agloe_dreams »

isodev wrote: post #208

Kind of a shame they didn't include Safari. But it's good to see Firefox has managed to climb to the second place.

Heh, yeah I enjoy that this is the missing context. It really does show progress though for Firefox.

It's like "The Cubs beat the Yankees in the World Series! (But the Astros actually won the World Series)"

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